RAT/ Ready Auto Transportation

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Slay, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. Slay

    Slay Light Load Member

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    In an attempt to prevent problems for another hauler. Be very careful if you move cars for RAT that are marked as inop. I called about a car and asked "Does it roll, brake and steer?" The dispatcher answered yes it does. When I picked the car up it even drove for a short distance before the transmission gave out. I winched the car onto my trailer and off I went to the auction.

    When I got to the auction the car's transmission was locked up. It would no longer roll backwards. I have a gooseneck flatbed trailer and I figured that I could use my winch to slid the car off. Long story short, the car got stuck on my ramps and I was unable to move it any more.

    I consulted a tow truck driver and he said that "(He) would not touch it with a 10 foot pole." I was stuck and I called RAT. Their solution..... call a different wrecker and pay for them to pull it off. I asked if they were going to pay the bill for the wrecker and they said "maybe or maybe not". They argued that since it was marked an inop that it was my responsibility for ANY expenses incurred in moving the car.

    I argued that the dispatcher had stated that the car rolled, braked, and steered and I should not be liable for the wrecker bill. As it turned out I was able to obtain a couple of chains and anchor them through a fence and across the street. This enabled me to establish an anchor point for my snatch block and pull the car off of my own ramps. I ended up paying a guy hanging out at the lot $20 to help me.

    The RAT supervisor after checking with his dispatcher who affirmed that the car was to roll, brake, and steer paid the $20 back to me.

    My point is that if I had not asked the question, Does it roll, brake, and steer?, and the dispatcher admitting it, RAT was going to stick me with the cost of a wrecker. Thankfully I was able to unload it myself. They stated that inop puts the burden on the hauler and they have no skin in the game after they dispatch the car to you.

    BE CAREFUL or it could cost you some big money.
     
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  3. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    You are not going to like this. You asked if it rolled, braked , and steered. It DID when you loaded it. How can anyone predict an issue when you get to unload point. That is the risk you take hauling INOP's. You were lucky to get $20. You would not have gotten it from me. If you are not equipped to deal with problems you should not be messing with non-running vehicles.
     
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  4. Dorsey

    Dorsey Medium Load Member

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    Me........I would of dragged that piece of crap off my trailer with my truck. I've done it. You guys can have ALL them inops though! I've been done with them for several years now. Had a foreign guy cancel a check on me once because he said I wasn't equipped to do the job because I couldn't get his car off my trailer because it was missing a wheel.
     
  5. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Yeah, a lot of the guys buying the insurance cars are former Eastern-Bloc types, who expect you operate like all their buddies do. I'm not dragging a piece of jagged steel all the way down my aluminum decks to get you POS off my trailer. They'll tell you the have a way to unload when you take the car, and then you get there and it's "Just slide it off with decks!" Roll off? Fine. Slide off? Ain't happening! I've had them ask me to use another car on the load to drag it off. SMH
     
  6. Slay

    Slay Light Load Member

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    Your are right Slant 6 I did not like your answer. My agreement was to move a car that rolled, braked and steered. When it did not do what was in the agreement then I should be paid for the extra work.

    I suppose if you were in the lawn maintenance business and a tree fell in the yard the night before you were to mow you would haul away the tree for free. After all your agreement is to mow the grass. You know #### well that you could not haul downed trees for free. You would be out of business because of the extra cost occurred in the tree removal.

    Car moving is no different. You are selling your truck space and your time. Anything extra should be paid for, period. If you are one of those haulers that will do anything just to "get the job none" shame on you. Why do you think the price for hauling cars is so low? Because brokers know that some one will move that car for $.35 a mile. Your attitude promotes the idea that "inop" gives the broker the right to shove any thing down your throat.

    As a broker I would love you. As a trucker you are pulling the industry down and hurting anyone trying to make a good living.
     
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  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    Bottom line is this, you made a decision to do something that didn't turn out the way you thought it would, in the end you learned a lesson, at some point in life it happens to all of us, and it didn't cost you a dime, I wish I could say that.

    Education costs money, I don't care whether you got it in some fancy school or out here on the road, what you do with that education from here on out is up to you.

    But honestly, you got off cheap, BTW, back when I hauled inop, I carried a floor jack and dollies.
     
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  8. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    I think you mean well overall Slay. Am not sure how long you have been in business, but the vast majority of gray area are the inops. I try to avoid them for the most part as the buyers/customers are unknown as to the level of damages or the customers capability to load/unload. I took one to MN & the order stated the buyer could unload. He had three guys & a $20 harbor freight hand crank winch puller.

    That said, regardless of how long you have been in business. Those that have posted above have experience going back to...when were car haulers invented? :biggrin_25525: My point, they are good guys & personally have learned much. Am sure you find the same if you stick around.
     
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  9. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    I guess for me, when I agree to an in-op, I expect the worst, I have a far greater problem with contracting a vehicle that the broker makes NO mention of any damage, and sure enough, when you get there it does run and drive, but instead of a 20 min. load and go, it takes you an two hours to do an inspection, to tape up the windows, strap down the hood and deck lid, air up the tires, and strap the doors shut.

    Then of course you have to constantly shuffle your load so that the new Lexus you picked up isn't parked behind the "running/driving WRECK, just incase some piece of broken plastic decides to become dislodged while running over rough roads at interstate speeds.

    Just so you know, the broker will not pay you any more for this wasted time/ motion either.


    Stan
     
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  10. Pullin2

    Pullin2 Crusty Canuck

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    Boy - I hope he never has to haul an 'evidence' unit from police impound - you know the type - not runner - split block - square wheels - trees growing up thru the bottom - rubber or rims sunk into the asphalt - something that is on contract and has been awaiting a capital case behind a fence for 7 years ..........

    Anyway, the guys are right, Slay. Boils down to good days and bad. Bitter and the sweet. You only remember the bad days when your having one of 'em.
     
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  11. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Now that Speedy has chimed in, along with K.T. and Slant, did y'all notice LBZ used a lot of words to call us 'Old Farts'???



    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:
     
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