Rate Confirmation on Blockchain Technology

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by AUPLSG, Jul 3, 2018.

Will you work on ELD with Smart Contract

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  1. AUPLSG

    AUPLSG Bobtail Member

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    Hello colleges,
    Myself and my friend are thinking about opening an Owner Operators ONLY company. By being in the trucking business for a several years as a dispatchers, we have a good list of brokers, who are providing cargo regularly. However, with new ELD mandate we are afraid that it will be hard to find Owners Operators who are whiling to work on ELD and NOT on AOBRD. By operating from the inside, we also know that Rate Confirmation, which Owner Operators received, are not necessary shows 100% of the gross price even if it says 100% on it.
    Thus, we are thinking to implement a BLOCKCHAIN based Rate Confirmation (Smart Contract), which will provide a cristal clear gross price with inability to edit or modify it.
    That said, Owner Operators will be driving on ELD (less hours than on AOBRD) but will getting REAL 85% of the gross, which may even end up in earning more while driving less.
    We would like to know your opinion if this idea will work and Owner Operators are whiling to work on ELD it that way?
     
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  3. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    I don't see why not.
    I would , nothing wrong with true transparency.
     
  4. AUPLSG

    AUPLSG Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for your reply. Our fear is that untill most of the companies are in transition phase (until December 19, 2019) and offering non ELD devices it will be hard to recruit a driver who is whiling to work on ELD.
     
  5. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    What country are you from? Also, public records go against the secrecy that some rely on to keep from getting undercut.
     
  6. AUPLSG

    AUPLSG Bobtail Member

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    Hi there, I’m from United States.
    Can you suggest any trusted public records website? I would like to see how those reccords looking like. To be honest I didn’t think about that. Do you think every Owner Operator using something like that?
     
  7. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    I never really took the time to get a good understanding of blockchain, but wouldn't the only thing beyond cryptographic signing offered be eliminating double booking? Is that really such a big problem as to require a blockchain? The chain would sign and hash the ratecons on a tracable ledger, yes?
     
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  8. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Another middle man offering brokered freight? That's just not going to be appetizing no matter what you do with the "data".

    The problem with ELD or AOBR is that people find out the loads don't pay enough for the time it actually takes. Especially when it goes through a few people that all want a cut before it gets to the carrier.
     
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  9. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Won't work.

    ELD isn't the issue, the HOS is, and i don't think you as a "dispatcher" understand the difference between an AOBRD and ELD or how the HOS works.

    What is needed is more transparency regs for brokers and shippers for that matter that force them to disclose up front when the offer is made who it is for, the rate that the customer has been offered, the actual bill to the customer by the broker and if the load is a repost with the broker not "owning" the load (that means originating the offer for the customer). This is what would help Owners out more than any other change.
     
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  10. AUPLSG

    AUPLSG Bobtail Member

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    High level:
    Imagine load board wrapped into Blockchain based UI, thus dispatcher kind of trading in that UI with brokers. As soon as the dispatcher and broker agreed on the price, broker will issue a Smart Contract (well for broker its just the same action which they do today, but the way we receiving it is different), which will go to the dispatcher with transparency to Owner Operator. All this will be done in that Blockchain UI web and/or Mobile app. Thus, this contract will have 3 timestamps with hashtags, and if there is a chnage will be made before it goes to the Owner Operator, the fourth timestamp with hashtag (and discription of course) will be shown.
    This is just a high level explanation, to show you that there is NO middle man like @skellr mention above, but a fair compensation for providing a load, dealing with brokers and providing dispatch services if needed.
     
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  11. AUPLSG

    AUPLSG Bobtail Member

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    Nope, no double booking, all cristal clear, see my comment below “High Level”
     
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