Rate per Mile for Owner Operator

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by St Regis, Nov 16, 2016.

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  1. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    I run 300-400 miles a day on the high side. I shoot for $1,500 a day.
    And what's more: I get it without issue day after day after day after day.

    Now, I'm not a cheap shipper looking to move cheap freight: I'm a motor carrier that offers exceptional service. So while you want price above all else; motor carriers that will perform don't operate on budgets such as you are describing.

    You can do it in house yourself; or hire it out to a low budget carrier.
    Either way, you'll be finding out that "cheap will cost you-every time".
     
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  3. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    And here comes the sucker!
     
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  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Find me a truck that costs zero to move it when it is empty

    You are paying a rate for the day. Forget about the miles because your fixed costs will catch up to you a lot faster than your running costs.

    If you needed a load moved 5 miles do you think $50 would be fair? It's going to take time to load and unload even if it's a dry van you are likely looking at at least 2 hours, pay a driver 20/hr and some fuel and you are still in the hole because you need to pay insurance and truck payment etc. may have well stayed home. Again I say you can do it yourself.

    You are not a quality customer anyway. Call TQL and ch Robinson and let us know what their quotes are.
     
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  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I am curious what rate @rollin coal would give you.............................
     
  7. ChicagoJohn

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    $600/day is a garbage rate, but since we're "as reliable as straws" hopefully you find some cheap company to haul it. You don't really need the load insured do you? Or I'm sure you're not about to check to see if their DOT number is actually valid and has a satisfactory rating?
     
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  8. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    Again it's short flatbed haul around Chicago, we're not talking about $3 a mile to go across the country.

    Lets use an example.
    I am leased onto Schneider, get 65% of load after Schneider brokers the loads to themselves.
    Here there's lots of short haul Van loads around Chicago, mostly drop/hook at one end live load/unload at the other.
    10-50 mile loads pay anywhere from $200-$300, I have seen up to $500 on short hauls with an extra stop.

    Point being there is a problem when I can do 3-4 Van loads in a day in that market giving up a huge percentage and still can earn more than what you're willing to pay a flatbed driver.
     
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  9. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Up to 600$ gross revenue a day. Ya good luck with that.

    For comparison: I've got a load lined up Monday morning going 12 miles, pays $596. I'll bee back home before lunch tune. Then Tuesday at 5 am i load for 1401$ total miles 90. But ties the truck up till Wednesday afternoon while waiting for them to use the machine and reload it to return to their office. And this is in the black hole market of florida. And after my carriers cut of 25%. But you think you should only pay 600 for a full day in the great market of Chicago?

    Down here, if this was a long term deal, 5 days a week, 48 to 50 weeks a year, and you were willing to commit to that...i would consider it at 4500 a week. You pay for the full week no matter if you use the truck 1 day or 5. Obviously with the higher operating cost and hoer cost of living in Chicago you would have to pay more to equal it out.
     
  10. Steinbrenner

    Steinbrenner Light Load Member

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    Are you asking what is fair to pay a driver or to pay a owner operator?
     
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  11. Ridgeline

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    See st Regis I have to point out the problem, you said it, we are not treated as a service provider but we are a commodity service, a huge difference in thinking which leads this back to just paying for a cost of operating or making enough revenue to exceed the costs. Most of us can do without being thought as a commodity service, we provide value and service to a customer without the Macdonalds prices. So back to the costs, it is reasonable to tie a truck up at $750 a day flat rate, forget the miles thing that just makes it look cheap.
     
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