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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by condocassanova, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. condocassanova

    condocassanova Light Load Member

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    What would be a competitive rate to quote for a daily run 5 days per week from walterboro, sc to Wilmington, NC- 231 miles using shippers trailers grossimg 80k? (one way loaded dead head back)
     
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  3. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    Few more ?? need to be answered. Drop and hook, fingerprinting the product, receiving hours, what happens if you miss a load, friendliness of shipper, pay schedule,hire a driver or O/O, how bad I wanted it,fuel surchage, etc. I am guessing you would be going to the port. I have a similiar deal, and I would get around 775 / 800 bucks per load, but I know others would do it cheaper.
     
  4. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    A lot of different things to consider but $1,000 range is what we would do it for with the ability to reload back (not every time but the option). And that is still low at the $2.50/mile range.

    If you are selling service you can get $2.50 mile or better. When you start selling price then you are dropping below that. Any direct account that you are talking sub-$2 is now less than spot market.
     
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  5. condocassanova

    condocassanova Light Load Member

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    O/O or company would only provide tractor and driver...no loading or unloading and very little if any waiting. No backhaul....not to port, to private company with no lines...quick unload...trailer loaded and waiting when tractor arrives to hook up at shipper....flatbed...fork lift unload no tarp
     
  6. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    $2 per mile, plus fuel surcharge, both ways, to the truck. The line haul is variable upwards depending on service required and expected by the customer.
     
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  7. BigBadBill

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    Sorry, assumed van. But with them providing the trailers you are still in the range just need to account for a little lower MPG. But if you build the right FSC you can still make that work.

    As Forty states about fuel splitting it out, mistake I made on an account that already had an FSC formula was not checking it. When we where at $4/gal they where only pay $.47/mile. Not the biggest deal but a good learning moment.
     
  8. LSAgentOZR

    LSAgentOZR Road Train Member

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    $2.00/per mile (including return)

    $.50/mile FSC

    Wait Time - 2 free hours. DET of $60/hour thereafter

    No Touch - Tarps would be extra of course. Sell the service and you'll be just fine.
     
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  9. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    You can bid 4 bucks a loaded mile + FSC, pulling a company flat, and it is certainly worth it. But you will not get the job for long, if ever. In that area, where leased O/O's are pulling containers for 95 cents + FSC, someone will under cut you very quickly.
     
  10. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Guys here in FL are pulling cans for that much as well, yet I routinely see cans on my board for 2+ a mile roundtrip. I also pull flat loads for a good customer, where 2 plus fuel round-trip is the norm. It's all about service, reputation, and relationships.
     
  11. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    He asked for a 'competitive rate'.I know of what you speak, but when you are bidding on a continual contract in that area of the country,the market will not bear 2 + fuel.Occasional spot loads on the boards nobody can cover, like you refer to, or lanes going into less desireable area, command that type of higher revenue. South Carolina contract rates are not that high. To get a good contract with a good shipper, you will have to give a little.Supply and demand. Lots of trucks, not much freight in that neck of the woods. I have left that area many times MT to the house.
     
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