Rates are crashing and fuel to the moon!

beware guys! just saw this video about trucker almost getting scammed by fake broker

 

Thanks for playing, but you are very ignorant. We offer health insurance, IRA match, paid vacation and tuition assistance. Al the hours you want, and nobody has to put up with nonsense like the “Walmart cheer” or bureaucratic bull **** . As if you have chance of getting ownership at Walmart, lol. Here, you get to do meaningful work, care for animals and the satisfaction of producing the best food in the world for your fellow Americans, in America. Walmart? Zero ***** given about their customers, vendors, employees, or America.

Which brings up an interesting side note. The average age of the American farmer is 60. The majority, by far, do not have a son or daughter even remotely interested taking it over. Today, the most common successor on the American farmer is a trusted long term employee.

 

Does Walmart or anyone else provide housing for that $14.50 an hour?

And “farm work” that most people around home hire for is sitting in a tractor baling hay, or sitting in a tractor planting, or sitting in a long hood Pete hauling grain. And they don’t have any takers at $20-25 an hour with a house because you might have to get up early and you might have to work late sometimes so it’s easier to work 8 hours and whine about how it’s impossible to make a living.

 

LOL! Good one.

 

I used Walmart as an example of a baseline for minimum wage, at a company where even in rural areas they are plentiful and accessible to most people.

What I meant by ownership is stock options (which Walmart probably has for their employees) as well as ability to progress. Even if places like Walmart don't have stock options for their employees, you can at least progress and use your progression as a stepping stone into other management careers.

Other minimum wage jobs offer the ability for progression as well. Yes you may never be a Walmart store manager or a McDonalds general manager, but the motivated people can at least progress to assistant managers in a reasonable time frame. Even at Walmart those wages I gave are non management roles. You are at $20 with just one promotion from crew to department manager at Walmart.

Bottom line, capitalism says you're not paying enough at $20 per hour. You can tell yourself that your job offers more meaning and better pay than elsewhere, but that's obviously not the case because you can't find employees.

 

Did anybody here grow up living comfortably? Reading the comments it seems like everyone grew up poor.

Perhaps everyone who grew up comfortably got another profession and not trucking.

 

You don't think people working at places like Walmart don't wake up early or stay up late?

also, I could use your same logic in reverse:

Family owned farms don’t have any takers at $20-25 an hour with a house because because they pay too low for the amount and type of work they require, so it’s easier for the farmers to whine about how it’s impossible to hire anybody because men are "lazy".

You can complain about what I said, but capitalism doesn't lie. You can't find workers, you're not paying enough. You can complain and say it's plenty, but it's not. What most of you aren't thinking about is this:

Your target demographic to work these farms are young men. A lot of these farms are probably in places where there's not much opportunity, and young people aren't getting married before 25 so there's no wife and kids to worry about. Social life is important to younger guys, they want to be around friends and they want to be around girls. The farm is probably nowhere near any of these things. If someone younger wants to get paid without having to pay for housing, they join the military where they are respected and get incredible benefits beyond the pay. They have way better options than working the farm that isn't even in their own family.

Above 25 years old, why on Earth would anybody want to work at a farm with zero career progression in which he was never going to get ownership of the farm (such as inheriting the farm from his parents)? In an area that's almost guaranteed to be less than desirable? That makes zero sense unless one was desperate, which is why the farms have to largely get help from migrants at the wages they're offering.

Last, I don't know what the work consists of on every single farm, but I know I picked up from a farm in Iowa one time and the place ####ing stunk bad. The smell was so strong and so bad that it got into my truck and it took me a week to completely air it out back to normal, and that was with me closing my doors ASAP because of the millions of fruit flies swarming my truck trying to get in as soon as I opened the door. The place was disgusting, and I absolutely understood why only (probably illegal) migrant men were working there. You couldn't pay me enough to sit in that stench 24/7.

As far as the farmers kids not wanting to take over the family farms in some cases (the farmer on this thread mentioned that), guaranteed most of those farmers didn't have enough kids of their own in the first place to have good odds of one of them wanting to take over the farm (look at your ancestry family trees, guaranteed the boomers were the first generation to have significantly less kids than previous generations dating back 400 hundred years). 3 kids was the absolute bare minimum your ancestors had and that was usually because of early death of the wife/husband, disease, etc etc.

Bottom line, your farmer friend and the farmer on this forum who I responded to need to pay more. Farmers can complain all they want, but capitalism doesn't lie. Pay more. If you can't get work at $25 per hour, better keep raising it. If you can't run your farm or your business past a certain point to be profitable, then maybe your business isn't feasible in your geographic location in 2025 for technological, social/cultural and economic reasons like it was in the past.

 

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What’s comfortable? I don’t remember ever wanting for anything, but I was also a kid. We always had meat in the freezer and I was clothed and fed. I’m sure it was a struggle at times but my mom didn’t have to work out of the house, raised 4 kids, and dad was a one truck owner op. Of course it was different back then and the PUC regulated everything in South Dakota. I just remember riding bike with my friends and basically having to be home by dinner time. Once I was old enough to want my own money I started mowing lawns to get cash.

 

Comfortable in 70's-80's I imagine parents each having a car in good shape, each kid has his own room, house has AC, at least one TV in the house,having all the appliances that are in good working condition , one or two vacations per year, kids going to summer camps, kids doing sports, family going to a restaurant at least once a month, not having the cheapest low quality food at home.
Stuff like that.