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Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by KaRsr, Jun 1, 2022.

  1. KaRsr

    KaRsr Bobtail Member

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    I'm new to the forums. I am a retired OTR driver that spent about 16 years on the road. I have been on disability retirement for about 18 years now and am looking into doing something on a part time basis and need to figure out going rates.
    I just got a complete dump bed setup for my 1985 f350 diesel pickup (it has an f450 chassis). I should have no problem getting 5 yards on it. I will only be looking to haul within about a 50 mile radius here in south Carolina and will only be working 2 or 3 days a week. Also fuel is not an issue because I operate my truck on used motor oil and my fuel is free as I have several shops that give me more than I can ever use.
    What kind of rates should I be charging if I break into something of this nature?
    I will operate mostly on a landscaping business type format so dot regulations as far as icc numbers will not apply to my type of business but I should still try to keep myself into the going rates because I will have added insurance costs and other related expenses.
    I'm basically looking for something to do as I am tired of doing nothing and now with my kids grown up that makes even more free time.
    Thanks in advance for any help y'all can give me.
     
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  3. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Heavy Load Member

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    Landscaping is exempt from DOT regs? How’s that work? If you have a landscape business you can haul dirt and stuff for profit with no DOT OR MC number?
     
  4. KaRsr

    KaRsr Bobtail Member

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    I'm looking into it but around here there are plenty of landscape companies running small dump trucks like mine without any icc numbers or following any type of normally accepted regulations. I even watch them bypass scales ( I won't have any to pass for my intended area) without an issue.
    For all intended purposes I will just be a guy with a pickup making a couple extra dollars. There are several people around here doing the same thing and doing it completely under the table.
     
  5. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Under the table? As in committing tax fraud?
     
  6. Jammer'

    Jammer' Light Load Member

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    Yes, they are doing it until they wreck into someone or someone wrecks into them. After that, the fact they aren't properly insured and are hauling for hire without the proper authority....they won't be doing it any longer and they will be living with relatives or on the street because they will have lost everything they own from the lawsuits.
     
  7. cke

    cke Road Train Member

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    Yo
    u could ask them.
     
  8. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I guess you need to find out the price of 5 yds of whatever delivered is. Then find out the cost to pick up yourself. Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out. Your rate will need to be competitive, to get any business. 5 yds of mulch around hers is $240 delivered. A friend of mine did that in the 90’s with a brand new Dodge Diesel. Made a killing in summer. Normally working Local LTL as a casual, making good hourly pay. Sometimes he would turn them down, when they called him in, making more with his little dump truck. His advantage was being able to dump it anywhere it would fit, saving the homeowner labor.
     
  9. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    If you don't mind sharing I'd sure like to learn about your process for turning that UMO into fuel.

    As far as rates, you might try approaching some landscape companies and materials yards and ask them what the going rates are, and offer them a little discount.
     
  10. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Heavy Load Member

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    I purchased a Ford L 7000 with a 5 yard dump body on it to repair damage to my riverbank and haul material for my driveway it was all personal use and I was thinking about doing something similar and looked into it and found that I would have to get a US DOT number as well as all the proper insurance and trying to put pencil to paper it just wouldn’t work out as far as the rates went because of the insurance and registrations etc.. not trying to rain on your parade OP but I do believe you would be in trouble if there was damage involving property or personal injury and a lawyer got a hold of it you may be in a world beyond what you think you are. I wish you luck and if you figure it out please cut me in because I could pick some extra money but I don’t think it would be tenable from a legal standpoint
     
  11. KaRsr

    KaRsr Bobtail Member

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    There is no process on the fuel. I filter it and put it in my tanks. The old IDI diesel motors will run on almost anything you put in the tanks. They just never came out and told you so. For many years the military ran what they called multi fuel engines. This is about the same thing only the compression is high enough that you don't want to use straight gasoline. I do add about 10 % gasoline to thin the oil out some particularly in the winter months. I've been running this truck like this since I got it a little more than 4 years ago. I regularly pull a gooseneck 3 car hauler to take cars to scrap yard and with 3 full sized cars I scale at over 30000lbs and the truck doesn't struggle at all pulling it. I wouldn't want to go pulling many hills like that but around here it does just fine. In the mountains I would want to keep it under about 18000lbs.
    I will ask around here when I manage to catch up with one of the trucks I see hauling the stuff around. I was hoping to not limit myself to stuff from the gravel plant but possibly also doing dump runs for people. I think there are plenty of things I can do with a small dump truck that will supliment my disability retirement income and give me something to do as well. I only paid $500 for the entire dump bed setup including the pto and all so I really can't get hurt on it with my running free fuel and all.
     
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