re: local logs

You're right and I don't like to correct things when not asked but your wording is incorrect in one area even though I fully understand what you're saying and you are correct.. Not starting an argument just clarifying two things - it doesn't matter how many total miles you drive, it's miles from the terminal. You can drive 400 or 500 total miles (although not likely) without filling out a log so long as you're within a 100 mile radius of your home terminal.

The other thing is just a clarification - the 100 mile radius is air miles and not road miles. Silly when you consider we're driving on roads not flying through the air but the 100 mile radius is indeed measured by air miles and not driving on the road miles. I learned this a few years ago when I was a P&D driver here at Con-way. I would drive 135 miles one way to my furthest stop and did not have to fill out a log whereas another driver that had 125 to his did - draw a 100 mile circle from my terminal I was in it and he was not. I questioned it and received an email from Con-way safety with the 100 mile short-haul exemption pasted into it and it is indeed air miles..

You are indeed 100% correct that a log needs to filled out for the next week if you exceed the 100 mile radius - actually the next 7 days, not week.. We are required to complete the entire month if there are more than 7 total remaining - if less than 7, we must complete the following month also but that is simply company policy..

 

Its 100 air miles !!

 

Pretty sure I stated that a few times.. I should say though that 100 "air miles" really means 115 miles..lol..

For all of those confused by the 100 mile exemption here's the link straight from the DOT..

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/hos-faqs.asp#_Toc111021236

 

As a local driver, your company can require you to log. Then you must.

 

No doubt.. Like I said in my first post on this thread, we were required to go above and beyond the DOT regs if we broke the 12 or 100 rule as a P&D driver..

 

The logical reason for it being air miles instead of road miles is to standardize how far x miles takes you. You can take a place that's 70 road miles down the interstate and easily find another route that would be 120 road miles. Thus opening up debates on if you're really past your 100 miles or not. With air miles, it's a hard line, no confusion available.

 

Your time keeping for the 100 mile rule can also be a time card. You must report how the carrier says but a time card is legal if the carrier allows it.

 

YEP when I worked at Labatt out of san antonio, they only made me log if i went over 12 hours on the job, or whenever I was disciplined for not clocking in or out good times

 

Yea because so far from every company I've looked at locally around here, they do require to run a log book but oil field trucking has a oil field trucking exemption where it's not required to take a 34 hour restart but simply 24 hours off the clock reset's the 70.

Log hauling, well, that's a big gamble job like construction but the down time could last a lot longer if mill's stop production for any reason or stop receiving because demand has dropped and could last for week's. I thought about doing it myself but got turned off real quik when I started learning about the down sides to it.