RE: New york HUT

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Powell-Peralta, May 24, 2010.

  1. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    I'm with ya. I don't goto cali based on that, and other, principles.
     
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  3. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I don't know about staying on the thruway. I would check with the state of New York and ask them or check their website. New York is starving for more revenue so I would not take a chance. If you only go to the state on a rare occasion and don't want to deal with the NYHUT, you can always get a trip permit.
     
  4. Brandonpdx

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    I think I figured it out by reading between the lines. When you file your HUT they want miles on and off the toll roads so that implies you need it even if you don't run any miles subject to the tax. So they pretty much extort you into signing up for their silly little program even if you just want to pass through to get to New England. (Not sure why you want to go up there anyway but supposin' you had to...)
     
  5. DrFlush

    DrFlush Road Train Member

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    You don't need a hut sticker or permit as long as you only run the toll roads.
     
  6. Cheap Weenie

    Cheap Weenie Light Load Member

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    Only the toll-covered miles of the Thruway are exempt, not the entire system, so you're going to have to register with HUT. These are the tax exempt sections: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/memos/highway/m95_6m.pdf

    After all, you have no way to prove to the nice man with the badge that you're going to only drive tolled sections. He's going to ticket you for not having the required tax registration.
     
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  7. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    To play devils advocate for a minute, I suppose you could fight that ticket on grounds that the officer didn't actually witness you doing anything illegal but was merely assuming you have or will. That typically doesn't hold up in court.
     
  8. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Watch out, fighting a ticket in some parts of NY can be a royal PITA. They demand that the driver appear in person for the court date.

    I attempted to answer a summons fro a broken spring on the company trailer after a letter to the court received no reply. The prosecutor said that I could ask for a corporate convergence and send the company lawyer -or- return another day with the driver [leased operator]...

    When we returned he was sworn in and had to testify that he dared to drive on the highways of NY with a broken spring and plead guilty.

    They had a bunch of truckers intermingled with criminal cases...made the driver feel real good to be there watching some of the 'criminals' being handcuffed and led off.....

    NOTE: New York will chase after anyone reporting NY miles to IFTA without a HUT account...

    I had a bill for $1,200.00 based on the highest weight class. After filing the missing returns, based on the box trucks doing 75% of the NY miles and we ended up paying around $500.00 instead.
     
  9. ExOTR

    ExOTR Windshield Chipper Extraordinaire

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    I would have sworn that I read that HUT was declared unconstitutional by a court earlier this year, something about you can't create an additional tax that impedes interstate commerce. I'll have to dig up the article
     
  10. Cheap Weenie

    Cheap Weenie Light Load Member

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    That case was because they were charging in-state companies a different fee than out-of-state companies. HUT itself was not being challenged.
     
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