Reality of my logic

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  1. Trucker indiana

    Trucker indiana Light Load Member

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    It really coes Down to the gamble of an older truck having endless maintenance or the gamble of a truck payment every month to add to my expenses. But from what I understand and hear, the newer one may have just as many breakdowns plus the payment ticking away every day I sit.
    I believe a well maintained older truck is the safest way to go as long as I bump my rolling maintenance up to .20 or even .25 a mile
    That will basically replace the truck every year
     
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  3. Trucker indiana

    Trucker indiana Light Load Member

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    I have moved some things around still based on 80k miles
    .6 fuel
    .05 toll and fee
    .25 maintenance
    .30 insurance tractor and health at 12k year ea.
    .4 base driver pay
    That's a base operation exp. Of 1.55 a mile.
    That frees up .2 per mile I can play with either a loan or profit of about 1k a month.
    Now this doesnt have taxes and what not in it becuase I cant remember what is paid on gross and what is net. I believe soc. Is gross but not sure how much I pay as a leased one driver
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    I caution you again to pull personal stuff out of the picture until you have a solid game plan and then add the personal needs into it to make that a bottom line goal for each load.
     
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  5. Trucker indiana

    Trucker indiana Light Load Member

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    So either way plan on spending a little more on bringing it up to pare
     
  6. Trucker indiana

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    That's what I did. I got all the numbers but taxes that will have to be some on the fly correction when I set down with my acct. If we take driver pay out and the extra then my operation I'd at about 1.15 a mile operating exp. 1.35 if we assume a 1k a month loan

    I understand not mixing them but if I cant provide my basic family needs then there is no point in doing this I need to bring home 1500 a week to keep my family housed feed and clothed ect.
    That's why I had it set up as basic driver pay. Then upped it once I got the others covered and stayed under or at my 1.75 goal
    I'm not saying your wrong by standard practice a business should be it's own independent structure
    I could say 1.35 a mile is my operating cost that leaves .4 a mile to pay my self and such but it's the same end isn't it?
     
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  7. Midwest Trucker

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    I’m happy to see you get your maintenance up to 25 cents. I’m confident you’ll need it the first year and like you said as you need less and less of it it can go towards replacement.

    Still think your driver pay should be .6 and anything personal comes out of that. Besides, if you get sick or injured you need to be budgeted to pay a driver and keep your operation going.
     
  8. Trucker indiana

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    True. My "plan" is to set aside that 1.35 a mile to cover what it needs adding it all to the maintenance fund. Then I'll payroll myself out of that for just enough to live. At the end of the quarter pay myself a bonus or something. when I'm setting taxes and evaluating my expenses I'm unsure of how to or how I should distribute "profit" between me and the business.
    I'm thinking 40 - 60 where 40 comes to me and 60% stays with the business.
    Part of me feels it should be more 20% to me and 80 business for the first year. Then once I see how much meat is on the bone or the business can take care of a years expenses then adjust accordingly.
    I'm still thinking on it but I see apart I left out. I need to repay myself as well. So I'll have .2 a mile set up as a loan fund either way if it's to me or to a bank or both.
    So
    .6 fuel
    .05 toll and fee
    .25 maintenance
    .30 insurance tractor and health at 12k year ea.
    .4 base driver pay
    .2 loan repayment
    1.8 a mile operating with a core operating of 1.2 not counting any personal payments
     
  9. Trucker indiana

    Trucker indiana Light Load Member

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    I wanted to just say thank you for everyone that had offered advice and suggestions. I still have much to learn and appreciate any future advice
     
  10. Trucker indiana

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    So I could adjust it to 2 a mile by upping base pay to .6 but I feel that getting up there to where a down market may make it tough or hard to operate at that rate
    And really the loan repayment should be a core exp. So back to 1.4 core operating cost. Then 2 a mile to include personal
     
  11. Midwest Trucker

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    Just by how you have things laid out there, your going to want to be an LLC taxed as an S Corp. You can pay yourself a reasonable wage and then the rest will be distribution to the owner, you.

    I wouldn’t plan on taking anything out of the business. Set yourself a goal of achieving something like $50,000 in your bank account. Once you achieve that then reset that goal to $100k. After that you can think about how much you want to reward yourself. Think of your business sort of like it’s own person. Your goal is for this person to make you lots of money, but this person must be healthy in order to make you money for a long time to come.

    Excellent cash flow gives you OPTIONS. Options in business are very important as things change quickly and you need to be healthy (cash rich) enough to adapt before you die (go broke).
     
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