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This was a little much for me, so I decided to ##### him out on the internet.
I have never hauled for them but call occasionally only to continue to be disappointed.
ITS needs to STOP THIS!!!, it is total over post.
really Bear?
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by BigJls1, Dec 4, 2013.
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There is a way in the tools to point, click, & lock out worthless companies like them and rightway so you never have to skip over their spam, it's not even there.
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Wow, I wish they would have that 5 years ago!
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I think it *MIGHT* be you right click on the load, and you can add that shipper/broker to 'ignore'.
I did that very thing with James Hardy and the brokers that move their $1.00/mile (if you're lucky) tarped freight out of central Florida.
Sometimes a broker will call me with their crap...as soon as I hear the pickup city, I ask if it's James Hardy. When they say yes, I ask if it's still paying around $1.00/mile. When they say yes, I say thanks, but the truck is deadheading out before hauling at that rate.
They still get it moved.
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Hey 40cal don't get too excited it's still 99% crappy, that part probably didn't change, you just don't have to suffer crossed eyes from the worst offenders anymore.
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You know Hardy goes out at 1.70 or so per mile. It's just greed!
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Yeah I remember vividly which is why I'm reluctant to leave the star. Being able to eliminate the UTI/Market/ whatever they call themselves now, TQL, mercer, etc would be nice though.
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Yes sir, I certainly do know that!
I may be relatively new to the game, but I figured out how they were playing it very quickly.
I'm not playing when it's rigged like that...I'll leave it for the bottom-feeders. I got my rate coming in to Florida to cover deadheading out...IF...and that's a mighty big if...I find something reasonable outbound, I may not haul sailboat fuel to Georgia. -
landstar did something like that in the pic, not too long ago. very good pay for a very short haul. i made 1 weeks rate over the weekend. gave me something to do since i had nowhere to go.
i thought it was an ITS glitch, but it was legit. LS had that many loads.
but, like mentioned above. LS only posts what their own trucks don't want. -
No, that's not how it works. There is no "Landstar trucks pick the freight over then it goes outside" that is myth. Granted the vast majority of what they post is dirt cheap garbage, same as everyone else in this business, that's just trucking. But gems do go out on open boards, every day, all the time, sometimes more often than others. Might even be dry spells when you don't see any, it what it is...
If it's freight where the customer specifies "landstar trucks only" then no it doesn't go outside. Not all of it is like that though. Landstar is in the business of Logistics not trucking. if they need to connect with outside carriers they will, regardless if the freight is good or not, customer needs will be met. If it can go on outside or inside, and the agency is one that works with outside carriers a lot (some of them actually prefer outside if they have connections with dependable outside carriers - on the other hand some of them prefer to only work with Landstar BCO's) when that load posts up it goes up on outside and inside board at the same time. You better be fast.... Keep in mind they do have a lot of really good freight that never goes outside, and probably also some not so good stuff as well.
But I've hauled a BUNCH of really lucrative Landstar freight.. enough to know that "only scraps go to outside carriers" is an outright complete and total myth. Worked with agents who would seek us out at the drop of a hat as soon as the customer dropped a load in their lap, because they knew where we were, and it was easy to cover, trust was a given, mutual (we'd already worked hard establishing that)... ...without even posting it up. Yeah, they do that with outside carriers too... You think it's rare to see a load like that post up, the flip side of it they are really on pins and needles posting that on a loadboard and giving it to an unknown carrier - chances are high it will get screwed up which is why no-one really ever wants to pay decent rates on loadboards (because the service/reliability from carriers on loadboards largely sucks).
Anyways, lost count of the time I loaded up right beside Landstar trucks both of us working with the same agent on the same good freight (apparently I just got a scrap right?). And sometimes it was all outside carriers working with the agent (usually the same carriers would be seen in certain areas) on freight no-one in their right mind would pass up on. You just have to know what you're looking at and be really quick cause there are eyes everywhere and the good stuff doesn't just hang around forever. usually when it pops on open boards, it's because it has been dry, not there, slowed down and all the regular BCO's or outsides who have the inside track moved on to other things and forgot it. But when it pops like it did for you, even if they were a 1,000 miles away they know it, they're watching (the sharp ones) and so they touch base to find out what's going on, then start moving into the lane and making themselves available to cover it and keep it off the loadboards so you never see it again.
You become known to the folks who have this freight, always somehow you are popping up available in their lanes around their freight, how convienient.... You work it like that with any broker with some good freight Landstar, CHR, whoever you connect with that has it... It's called networking and you'll never build a decent network chasing random rates willy nilly all over 48 contiguous states..... You should make a mental note of that particular Landstar agency, keep it to yourself and share it with no-one, watch for their freight again. Figure out what they do and where. Try to connect up again... build a rapport and make money... and keep it from posting back up again as best you can so no-one else lucks into it...Last edited: Dec 6, 2013
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