rear end ratios

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by harmin5288, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    Hi guys


    i know this topic has come up soo many times and I just need a little more clarification. I understand the concept of the rear end ration.... turns of the drive shaft to one turn of the rear wheel.


    from my understanding the lower the ratio,3.36, the lower the rpms at highway speed meaning better fuel economy, but will won't pull worth anything in the hills...


    higher ratio,3.55, means a higher rpms at highway speeds lower fuel economy but will pull better in the hills.... are my assumptions right?

    also, lower ratio faster off the line and higher ratio slower of the line?


    what do you think the rpm difference between the 3.36 and 3.55 would be at highway speeds. would i even notice a difference overall like in fuel, hills, stop and go?

    is there a formula to figure out what the difference in rpms would be between a 3.36 and a 3.70?


    I plan on running I-5 from WA to CA and maybe AZ, NM, TX and was wondering what you guys recommend pulling van at 35-40k.


    thank you guys
     
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  3. Taildragon

    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    http://www.roadranger.com/rr/index.htm

    Snoop around this website, they used to have a page that you could put in your parameters and it would give you the information that you are looking for. I thought I had the exact page saved in my favorites but I couldn't find it. The page that you are looking for will have you put in tire size and transmission ratio etc. etc. If I can find the page I will post it here, if you find it post it here also, a lot of guys ask these questions regularly.
     
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  4. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    Hey thanks guys but I am not sure of what u linked. How and what is it used for. It's only got three parameters
     
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  5. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    I just wanted to know if my understanding of the rear end was right
     
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    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    Fill in the parameters with the correct information and it wiil give you the information that you are looking for, assuming you know how many RPM's that you want to be running at cruise speed. The basic concept you already understand if I read your post right. Each engine has an optimum cruise speed, (rpm). You were asking the difference in rpms between the 3:55 versus the 3:36 if I remember right.
     
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  8. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    i think i got what I am looking for but i am not sure what to use for the parameter of "Transmission Final Drive Ratio"??
     
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  9. fenderman

    fenderman Light Load Member

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    Maybe this will clear up the "pulling" aspect people have pondered over for years. Lower ratios (say 4:56 or something) are better suited for heavy duty action such as a dump truck or low boy pulling out from a dead stop in soft earth or sand etc. It keeps one from "slipping" the clutch and starts moving the load with less strain ,but back to the pulling part. Take two identical trucks with the same engine ,horsepower ,transmission etc, and the only difference is differential ratio. When the engine is "maxed out" climbing a hill one truck might pull the hill at oh say 37 miles per hour in seventh gear ,and the other truck maybe doing 37 miles per hour in sixth gear. These are just examples mind you ,but ultimately you only run out of pulling power when you run out of gears.
     
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  10. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Most fleets today opt for either a 3.55-58 rear end with a .73-.74 O/D top gear or 2.64 rear end with a direct drive top gear. Both combinations give roughly the same cruise rpms and final drive ratio and the best balance between efficiency and pulling power. However, theoretically the 2.64 rear end/direct drive will be more efficient due to the reduced losses and wear in the transmission by not running the final drive through a set of gears.

    That being said, if you mostly ran, say, the Rocky mountain states pulling lots of passes, you migh be better off with a lower rear end (3.70-4.10) for reduced downshifts when climbing hills. On the flipside, if you are a bullhauler in the plains states, you might be better served with a higher rear end (3.36-3.08 ) for lower cruising RPM on the flatlands, ideal when your pushing 80 mph, lol!
     
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