Reefer fuel in a P/U ????

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  1. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    In places where they sell "discount" reefer fuel, which is nothing more than dyed fuel, it says right on the pump, "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY". Why do you think that is? Because it's illegal to run it in ANYTHING on the road. That's why you pay less for it because it doesn't have the extra taxes in the price.
     
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  3. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    Heres VA rules.
    Dyed diesel fuel is untaxed fuel. Low sulfur dyed diesel
    fuel can be used in vehicles that are not registered or
    required to be registered in Virginia, when conducting
    business as provided for in Va. Code §§ 46.2-662 through
    46.2-684. Va. Code § 58.1-2265​
    Can dyed diesel fuel be used
    in vehicles registered for
    farming purposes (F-tags)?​
    No. Since federal or state tax has
    not been paid on dyed diesel fuel,
    it cannot be used in vehicles that
    are designed for highway use and
    are required to be registered in
    Virginia. Va. Code
    § 58.1-2265​
    Can dyed diesel fuel be used
    in
    unlicensed farm vehicles?​
    Yes. Low sulfur dyed diesel fuel may be used in vehicles
    that are not registered or required to be registered in the
    state and operated in accordance with the provisions of Va.
    Code §§ 46.2-662 through 46.2-684.​
    A DMV special agent collects a fuel sample for unlawful
    use of dyed diesel fuel.​
    Is there a penalty for unlawful use of dyed diesel
    fuel?​
    Yes. The civil penalty is a minimum of $1,000 or $10 per
    gallon of fuel, based on the maximum storage capacity
    of the tank(s). Penalties are charged on the propulsion
    tanks of the vehicles as well as on any storage tanks on the
    vehicles. Penalties can also be charged on the storage tank
    at the farm if that was the source of the dyed fuel found in
    the vehicle.
    Va. Code §58.1-2265(B)
    Any person who refuses to allow an inspection or collection
    of a fuel sample is subject to a $5,000 penalty for each
    refusal. If the refusal is for a vehicle fuel sample collection,
    the penalty is assessed to the registered owner of the
    vehicle. If the refusal is for a sample to be taken from any
    other storage tank or container, the penalty will be payable
    by the owner of the storage tank or container. Va. Code
    §58.1-2267
    A person may be charged with a Class 6 felony if he or she
    uses dyed diesel fuel for a use that he or she knows or has
    reason to know is a taxable use of the fuel. Penalties can be
    charged if a person sells dyed diesel fuel to someone who
    the seller knows or has reason to know will use the fuel
    for a taxable purpose. If the amount of fuel is less than 20
    gallons, the person may be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor.
    Va. Code § 58.1-2273(7)
    A person who attempts to alter the strength or composition
    of any dye or dye marker in any dyed diesel fuel may be​
    charged with a Class 6 felony.
    www.dmv.state.va.us/
     
  4. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    This just proves your other post wrong. It's not legal to run dyed fuel on the road regardless of what your are doing.

     
  5. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    Now Rockinnrollin and Outerspacehillbillie, get the story straight as it's the same in OK and TX plus several other farm states. Sorry to bust your uniformed bubbles. I run a Farm-use pickup and we can use Red fuel. Read the rules I posted them and the site where you can get more infomation before you start reaming people out and embarrassing yourselves.
     
  6. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    You better reread the rules you just proved yourself wrong! :biggrin_2559:
     
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  7. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    You need to read the law as it says, a Farm use vehicle can be use don the hiway. I am not paying Fuel Tax on Farm use Fuel and I am legal. Stop at any livestock sale barn and tell all the farmers they are running illegal and they will laugh your butt into the street.
     
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  8. Passin Thru

    Passin Thru Road Train Member

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    I am not going to argue with you. It would just bring me down to your level.
     
  9. CondoCruiser

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    According to the ASTM test standards, there are 7 grades of diesel fuel.
    Three #1's
    Three #2
    and one #4

    The differences are the sulphur levels and also they test carbon and potash on spent fuels among other things.

    Besides the tax thing. Personal diesel vehicles have requirements on which diesel you use just like these newer trucks or you void warranty. The fuel injectors are subject to get deposits on them.
     
  10. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    did you drink some of that dyed fuel or can you just not read the law that you posted? Here it is again for you as you posted it but I will enlarge the print for you so you might be able to read it this time.

    Please highlight for us where it says farm use vehicles can be used on the highway. All I see is where it says you may not use dyed fuel in any vehicle that requires registering which is completely opposite of what your saying.

     
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