Refresher course for hours of service?

No I don't need to Google, as there is zero truth to what you are claiming. Sorry you can't handle being wrong, but you are. Until you can provide an actual regulation or guidance then I'm done arguing with the willfully ignorant.

Plus, if you read what you yourself posted it doesn't even claim what you say it claims. It supports what is the truth. I.E. just by being at a shipper/receiver doesn't mean on has to be on duty. They give a whole list of things that have to happen, which just simply mirrors the regulation.
So you need to learn to read your own cites, and provide official regulation/guidance when you make a, in this case wrong, claim about what the regulation is.

 

I don't need to learn. They don't apply to me.

 

in reality you’d never be off duty if you didn’t fudge that one a little bit. FMCSA seems to agree by now allowing 30 minute breaks to be satisfied by either line 1 or line 4, or some combination of the two adding up to 30 minutes or more. It’s the line 2 stuff they are more worried about.

 

The rub is that a lot of DOT officers fall back onto option “C” themselves and don’t like to be questioned about it by guys making arguments based on “option B”. We all know how that works out when people waste their time trying arguing the law with cops on the side of the road. Here’s your ticket anyway go tell it to the judge.

 

eCFR :: 49 CFR 395.2 -- Definitions.


Displaying title 49, up to date as of 6/12/2023. Title 49 was last amended 6/01/2023

§ 395.2 Definitions.
On Duty Time; means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

(4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

(i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in § 397.5 of this subchapter;

(ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

(iii) Up to 3 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;

(8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and

(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.

 

I agree with you, completely.

 

So this was updated 2 weeks ago.

And not 9 years ago as is claimed.

 

Someone needs to sticky that regulation

 

Yes. And? You are the one who claims all time at a shipper/receiver be on duty.
Here's a hint since you can't read. Not a single point says that.
The closest is point one, but that doesn't count unless one is waiting to be dispatched. (You have to read the whole sentence, not the part you like.)

But again, don't bother replying until you 1. Learn to read. .2. Can cite an official regulation. or even guidance.