Reinstating authority - with possible partner?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by osumike33, May 15, 2013.

  1. osumike33

    osumike33 Light Load Member

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    I have been planning on reinstating an operating authority I had years ago. I can no longer drive (medical) and want to retire from my job of over 20 years in the travel industry and get back into trucking. I bought two straight trucks a couple of years ago and they are leased to an expediter, so have gotten my feet wet with my involvement with them. But, I have read so many posts about guys getting their authority with little or no experience and seen all the push back from people saying they have so little chance of success, that I'm starting to doubt myself a bit. I'm confident I could do well; but what I have learned in the past two years is that to be successful, you need to work with good people. And my doubt comes from whether, with my little experience, I could find those good people who would be willing to work with me. Having told my wife this, she said 'get a partner who does have the experience'. SO - my question is, anyone aware of this happening with anyone they know? Two guys bringing different things to the table and getting together to make a company? I'm not totally inexperienced, but I've not dealt with brokers. I've negotiated with airlines and hotels, so I am sure I could negotiate with brokers and shippers; but the other guy might know which brokers to work with; he might know which trucks would be best, maybe I would know which financing would be best; he might not be able to manage money well, I can. And with success with a couple of trucks, he might know other owner/operators that would be interested in working for a small company that they'd have a lot more input with than where they are one of a thousand. Anyone has any thoughts on this sort of arrangement, positive or negative, would appreciate hearing from you.
     
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  3. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    Partnerships are difficult, but not impossible. Going into it, you'll need a lot of capital as you suffer the first year or two, making the mistakes we all make, and learning from them. If you don't have a freight source, and intend to use loadboards exclusively, you'll need even more capital set aside because you'll be sitting frequently. Eventually you can build a contact list from the boards, and not have to use them as much. It helps to also own your equipment. If you don't, and you're not running consistently, you're going to face a sense of urgency to take cheap loads in order to pay for your equipment. That will undermine your profitablility and also get you branded as a cheap carrier with some of the bigger brokerages, which can, and does influence their rates.

    With plenty of start-up cash, and a good buffer in the bank account, you will face much less turmoil than if you go in on a shoe-string budget. Worse, try adding a partner, whom also is tight on funds... sweat equity is a great concept until you start getting behind on bills. If you can establish your company and learn the ropes by yourself first, that's what I'd do. Build it into a profitable operation running in the black, then if you want to grow, find a partner candidate which will bring something good to the business; whether that be venture capital, a business degree, or industry experience in an area where you can use it, like sales, or dispatching, etc. I guess my opinion is that if you throw two guys and some equipment out on the road without a tested business model, you'll be facing a lot of unnecessary challenges as you're trying to focus on building and refining your operations. If you decide to form a partnership, don't cheat yourself good nights sleep by not paying an attorney to help form the legal basis of the organization. It's money well spent to know you've done it right, and that your interests are protected in any event.

    I'm not trying to discourage you- with enough initiative and cash flow, you can make it work. I'm sure you're an exceptional individual, and wish you luck. You're in the right place to find answers for questions pertaining to trucking!
     
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  4. kw600

    kw600 Road Train Member

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    Some kind words up above. I too am looking on getting my authority, but like stated I am saving for the first 1-2 years of "slow" business as we get established
     
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  5. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    First, with ST's you are going to need 10+ units in order to make a go of it. And these days it is pretty hard to just pop in and get access to freight away from brokers without tractors. That is what the expedite 3PL's are screaming for.

    We are already established in the expedite world and would be willing to discuss how we can work together.

    Shoot me an email.
     
  6. osumike33

    osumike33 Light Load Member

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    Thanks, Bill - I had planned on keeping the two separate, was going to keep the straight trucks where they are, which means setting up another corp for the tractors. How is your expediting business? VERY slow for my two trucks, but I will e-mail you or call the contact you mentioned last time we spoke to see how things are going. I'm not opposed to making a move at this point if you have business and others don't....but I think it's very slow across the board.
     
  7. kw600

    kw600 Road Train Member

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    Would expedite work with 3 trucks 3 trailers? Dry vans; and teams?
     
  8. osumike33

    osumike33 Light Load Member

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    Team are a good choice with t/t in expediting. When I had one of my trucks with Fedex Custom Critical I used to see the pay sheets for everyone - the tractors could make some very good money. But, from what I understand, they also sat a great deal...totally different than general truck load, though I suppose you could do both with t/t. Some guys coming from t/t to expediting don't last long because they can't stand the sitting around that happens far more often.
     
  9. Oscar the KW

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    The only ship that doesn't float is a partnership. Let the business be yours and yours alone, with you having the final say on every aspect of it. If you feel that you need help getting it going or help running aspects of it hire someone, do not make them a partner.
     
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  10. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    They're at the wrong company if they're sitting. The great thing about TT expediting is the flexibility one has to haul other freight also. But if you're leased on to a "force dispatch" company that pretty much all they do is expedite, then you will sit while others follow the money in different segments.

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