Retreads are not the problem

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  1. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Why is capping your own casings so foreign to most guys. Buy the tire new when it wears out have it capped. You'll never have to wonder where the casing came from. We've had the same casing capped 3 times at roughly $110 each or we could have bought virgins at $350 each x 3 for the same driven miles. It's simple math.

    last 2 exploded tires I've had were both virgin BFGoodrich. One on the drives that ate a fender and one on a trailer that ate a mudflap. What does that mean? Nothing, it just means both can explode and take out equipment. Do caps fail at a higher rate than virgins? Not from my experience, if they did I wouldn't waste my time or money on them. Are they perfect for every situation? No, but id say 90% of guys could run them and never have any issues but then again there are 10% of guys that could break an anvil with a rubber mallet.

    I just love the guys who swear they won't work. Which usually are the guys who have never used them or are company drivers and going from 3rd or 4th hand information. If you've flown on an airplane, you've landed on recaps!
     
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  3. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    It means someone hit the sidewalls on a curb, or drove over a curb to get into a dock, hit a rock or something else in the road. Virgins or Cap's do not just blow out for no reason at all. The biggest thing with a cap is the odd are increased to having damage to the casing or as I call it bruising. Once a tire get the casing bruised it's a count down on time, it's going to blow it is a matter of when. Trying to argue that a used casing is as good as a new casing just does not make sense.

    Caps are not as good as virgins, get real. As far as planes, they blow tires on a regular basis when landing. Our government does not safe guard us, and never has. It is about the money. In the 7 year I have been at this company not 1 single tire that has blown has been a virgin. I have had 11 blow outs, and 3 flats. 1 flat was on a virgin all ther rest of the tire failure were cap's. Most were in hot weather.
     
  4. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    guess i have been lucky then--on virgin tires i have never had damage--usually a sidewall blow out--i also have never had damage from a cap--my company gets there own capped--runs first and second on truck and third cap on trailers--i am all for them--they are safe--and cost effective--but same as anything else--if you dont look after it--you are asking for trouble
     
  5. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    I've alway run virgin tires until a little over a year ago. I was needing a new set of drive tires and sent 8 casings from a previous set I had on the truck to the retread shop because the tire sales guy claimed that the technology has come so far that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the recaps and the virgins.


    Bull Shi+!!

    First problem I encountered was about 40,000 miles...I peeled a drive tire going down the interstate and it took a quarter fender with it.
    That's the first tire failure that I've had in at least ten years and the last tire failure before that was due to me running over a jagged rock going into a jobsite to unload.

    The second problem that I encountered was that they wear out fast! I got 140,000 miles out of those caps and have always gotten at least twice that mileage out of virgins...

    I don't see the advantage of running recaps and I will never consider them again because they just aren't good enough.

    As far as that study goes...I don't buy it!
     
  6. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    Yes, and the military uses them too. But they are only used twice per flight for only a minute or two. Heat is the main problem for tires.


    Article=

    100% PURE, UNADULTERATED
    BULL'S HIT.

    Today's trucker magazine= toilet paper.
     
  7. BIG RIGGER

    BIG RIGGER Road Train Member

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    Recaps kill thousands of people every year without blame.It's hard to dodge a huge gator in the middle of the night on a motorcyle.I have had recaps blowout the same day they were put on.

    As long as recaps are legal DOT can not be serious about highway safety.As usual the tire salesman claims if only the driver would check his tires with a guage it only takes 15 minutes.CRAP! You can't even take the valve caps off that fast.

    I used to pull into a Speedco once a month to get my tires checked it only costs $10 if they don't add air and $20 if they do.I kept a Speedco file with me so when the lying shop foreman claimed I never check my tires I could prove it with the Speedco reciept.
     
  8. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    It usually takes about 10 or 15 minutes to put a guage on all 18 of them...I do it a couple of times a week.


    YOU PAID TO HAVE AIR PUT IN THE TIRES?!?!?!?!?

    And only once a month?

    I thump my tires at every stop and put a guage on all of them 2 or 3 times a week! (Usually 2 times unless I think there's a reason for more)
    I mean seriously...I just carry an air hose with a glad hand on one end and an air chuck on the other and keep'em aired up.



    $20 to add air???

    That's incredible and incredibly stupid all at the same time!
    No wonder companies treat drivers like idiots these days!
     
  9. BIG RIGGER

    BIG RIGGER Road Train Member

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    The reciept is worth $20 when someone is trying to claim you never did what you say you did.

    Just as what you say in your post I do not believe and you have no way to prove it.That being said I'm definitly not trying to began a peeing contest with the best that has ever been.I was posting to let the the new drivers know there are ways to CYA.
     
  10. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    Missed the point again eh'?


    We're gettin' used to it!
     
  11. Powder Joints

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    I have never had anyone in a shop question if I check my tire or not. Every time I get in and out I at least give them a visual inspection. Actually check them with a gauge, once a week unless theres a problem. Anytime I have reason to be concerned I put a gauge on it. thump daily. I document every 2 weeks in the DVIR tread depth, or if there is a equipment change.

    You will find if you document in your DVIR like your suppose to people will not question if or when it was done. This book is your primary way to cover your buttocks....

    If you see me I'll be glad to check it for 20.00 bucks, and give you a copy of a DVIR to turn in. If your really doing this there getting a good chuckle in the shop.
     
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