Here's the thing. I met with this guy (potentially my first trucking employer) that wants me to help him run team round trips from Billings Montana to Salt Lake City hauling 350 degree asphalt in a tanker and pup tank. Basically in the neighborhood of 40 tons loaded depending on maximum weight limits in Wyoming and Idaho.
I asked him about our route and chaining and he said, "we chain". This was yesterday. This morning I woke up with a new thought... Death by asphalt ... I had a vision of being at the bottom of a snow filled mountain pass road in a ditch under 40 tons of 350 degree asphalt.
Understand I have driven in snow and ice for the past 30 plus years. But I have not slid down a mountain pass with that much weight in a pup tanker before trying to not jackknife.
I am suddenly glad that I have two weeks to think this over. Yes I need money. But it's a funny thing... I would like to be alive to enjoy it.
I am seriously wondering this morning if what he wants to do can be done safely? I am not that familiar with the grades on the route he wants to take. I know he also wants to take the route he takes because he's wanting to avoid the scale stops on the other route which he says is to save time.
So I have to ask myself..... maximum weights, snow, ice, chains, mountain grades? things that make me go hummmmmm
Yes I can swim in the deep end but one mistake and that's a long way down. What good is my impeccable driving record and self confidence to my family if I'm dead?
Perhaps I shouldn't take the first job offer that comes along? or... what if I tell him, screw this I'm going the other way even it means a couple more scale stops and I'd rather not force my way down a canyon if I can go around it?
Is this a guy I WANT to team drive with? or will I die in my sleep on a return trip? He says he's been doing this for 8 years and it's his bread and butter. He's obviously still alive to tell about it. I just want to be sure it STAYS that way!
I'm not exactly risk avoidant. I'll try almost anything once. But I also realize that in some things there are no second chances. It only takes one failure and game over.
I think I would like more options and should keep sending in job applications to other places. I would like to learn what I can from this guy but I also want to come out of it alive.
In the interest of learning what I can. Can anyone tell me more about the route options between Salt Lake and Billings? What is the safest route? Where are the most dangerous places on them? I would like to know before I go.
Risk Reward Management
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Aaragorn, Nov 9, 2010.
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well first of all, he's still alive, isn't he....???
i think that once you get a familiar view of the run NOW, you will be a bit more confident (but not overly so as to screw up) and be able to do the run. by the way, it'll be freezing cold out there anyway's, is there still that need for the asphalt then...???
i say go for it, at least you got something NOW that not too many other newbies have. -
I personally would opt out on that one! There are too many other jobs out there. If what you are saying about this guy is true, he sounds like a super trucker and there is no way in hell I would even get in the truck with him. If your life is worth risking for $600 a week then go for it! I'm not sure about your driving experience as far as big rigs go but actually in the big picture it wouldn't be your driving skills I would be worried about. Why don't you wait until he drives off a cliff this winter, go buy a truck and take over his routes! They will need someone to haul asphalt after this guy kills himself and his co-driver.
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Uh oh, this is one of the first posts where me and Rerun disagree! Actually Rerun, I was aiming my post at the team driving aspect. Him driving by himself would probably be a different story!
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I think I need to talk with him some more. I also need to learn more about the route options and see how committed (or perhaps stubborn) his intention is to save an hour taking a short cut?
I learned a lot in the truck about him yesterday. It's interesting how sleeping on things lets my mind recall things I didn't necessarily pick up in the moment.
Yes, he's got a cowboy streak in him. That's not unusual for my region. He pointed out to me as we passed one of his friends houses who is a world champion bull rider. He told me how another of his friends was killed in a light plane accident with two other members of the family.
This morning I find myself piecing together a personality profile of him based on the things he pays attention to... he's an avid wakeboarder and snowboarder.
I hate meeting a guy that has lived twice the life I have by the time he's half my age. (it's a mixed blessing ya know-probably good for me) He's traveled to 38 states, owns his own semi truck and his cars are paid off. He has a small mortgage is all. He's also traveled to 5 foreign countries... has or has had a boat, motorcycle and snowmobile.
I am SERIOUSLY rethinking my risk reward parameters in life. However apparently he hasn't managed to create a financial situation in his life that he's out of the rat race yet either. He still 'works because he has to' rather than because he has the option to choose to do whatever he wants if you know what I mean.
and today i get to go trudge my way back to a job I despise that doesn't pay me enough to make ends meet to think about it all. ouch!!!!!
yes I'm alive. I like that. In fact I like living a lot!
the run pays about twice what I am making now. If it can be done safely I'm all for it. I just don't know enough right now to be sure it can.
I understand that to live means risk. I don't know right now how flexible he is. I think I need to know at least that he's not a dare devil. Apparently his friends (some at least) haven't fared to well.Last edited: Nov 9, 2010
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Aaragorn, read the PM i sent you, if i post it here, it'll be out of sync to the thread..
but basically "chompi", and others, i am saying the o/o doesn't want to die either when the newbie is behind the wheel, so he WILL BE teaching him good, albeit, the cowboy way, which i dislike.chompi Thanks this. -
The trouble I am having is he's so focused on the eminent birth of his son his mind really isn't in the business. It's hard to get answers from him and I don't know if it's because he doesn't know the answers or because he's just too distracted by the really important things in his life (which I'm all for btw) to lay out the details of what is down the road for a new trainee.
Right now I am playing the patience card and trying to pull as much information from him as fast as I can get his attention and he can download it out of his brain to me. -
what I haven't seen yet on the thread ...is anyone tell me more about the routes that I asked about. Anyone know those roads?
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the world still has to rotate....
well then this might change things a bit. if he's not as focused as YOU THINK, then bail out now........try and find something NOW and fast, then be done with it. when the season gets bad, and it will then he might not even run since that dirty little diaper pooper will be here soon. he might want to spend time with that instead of focusing on your training.
but think fast, time is not going to be on your side for long.Aaragorn Thanks this.
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