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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Aaragorn, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Here's the site

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/

    You can just enter the number and you find what you need. It's a handy site to have as your Favorities because there will be times when you wonder and there's no one around.
     
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  3. Aaragorn

    Aaragorn Bobtail Member

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    Is this some kind of company rule? I don't see how this would have any effect on the cdl license itself. I am confused. If some company has a policy about how much they allow a company driver to work doing non driving stuff perhaps but what sort of regulation applies to the cdl license for owner operators that governs them doing work besides driving? That doesn't seem very good to me. Is this for real? What or who is the governing authority for this if it is and where can I find out more?
     
  4. Aaragorn

    Aaragorn Bobtail Member

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    hummmm.... so what is the condition we are talking about here?
     
  5. Aaragorn

    Aaragorn Bobtail Member

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    Ah found it!....




    On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
    (4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth;
    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;
    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
    (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.




    so..ummmm??????


    what sort of risk does it put a cdl license in to do other 1099 contract work for someone else? this doesn't make any sense to me.


    If I have two jobs and one of them doesn't have anything to do with commercial driving you are telling me that it puts my cdl license in some kind of risk because I make money doing something other than driving for money???

    I don't seen any specified limitations in these definitions, or limits relative to any specific time period. How or what does this mean?


    please clarify. I am confuuuused.
     
  6. chompi

    chompi Road Train Member

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    No, it puts you at risk because you have been working all day at job one, and then go to your driving job and drive all night! Thus, you never got any sleep. You will actually sign paperwork having to do with this when you are at orientation for a company.
     
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  7. Aaragorn

    Aaragorn Bobtail Member

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    I have a friend. He's a owner operator hot shot driver, he is also a handyman and does all kinds of odd jobs for people. He's just an entrepreneurial kind of guy. So you're saying that somehow his non-driving work could negatively impact his cdl license?
     
  8. Aaragorn

    Aaragorn Bobtail Member

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    ohhhh... you you're just looking at 'duty time' as it relates to the regulations of sleep! NOWWWW it makes sense. ok I get it.:biggrin_25514: thankyou.

    So this IS a "company policy" thing.

    geeze for a minute there it sounded like some whacked out government regulation on income. sorry. I was about to go ballistic on over regulation!

    That's really good to know. so... wake up and do the driving first then do the odd jobs at the end of the day and sleep again...
     
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  9. celticwolf

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    You have to log all work that is compensated for as On-Duty not driving and that goes against your 11 hours per day and the 70/8.

    If your friend should get into an accident and some smart PI discovered his "off log" work you can bet the accident will charged against him either by the LEO investigating accident or by a court.

    If you have a CDL now you should know this.
     
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  10. celticwolf

    celticwolf Road Train Member

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    No it's not a company policy it is the LAW..
     
  11. Scrumdog

    Scrumdog <strong>I ARE A TRUCKIST</strong>

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    ???????

    It has absolutely nothing to do with income or company policy. The Hours of Service regulations are designed to make sure commercial drivers are well rested when driving. Like another poster stated, if you're working 8 hours at one job they would count against your "on duty" time driving.

    Working another job first and then driving, or the other way around, results in the same issues. Either way you're only allowed a certain amount of working time. You're not permitted to drive a commercial vehicle unless you fall within the Hours of Service regulations outlined by the FMCSA whose site is linked near the top of the page.
     
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