Road safety is everyone's responsibility
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by RomTon, Feb 27, 2024.
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The other thread you were crying about the insurance company was screwing you
This thread your crying about the DOT screwing you -
Further, while a driver's travel time does not need to be logged on duty, FMCSA does not consider travel time as part of any rest break. IE if a driver gets in an Uber to the airport at 0700 it starts an imaginary 14 hour clock and the driver cannot drive until 10 hours after the travel has been completed. So sayeth my company's Safety Critters, so sayeth the Courts, so sayeth we all.
The long and the short of is you tried to start a "mailbox money" hot shot business without understanding how the industry functions - from FMCSA regulations to insurance to vetting drivers to a dozen other facets. It was only a matter of time before it blew up in your face. You're not the first, you're not the last, and if you're out less than $100,000 consider it a win.homeskillet, rollin coal, RomTon and 2 others Thank this. -
Time spent under personal conveyance is off-duty time.
7. Are there maximum distance time or distance limits for the use of personal conveyance?
No. However, it is important to note that the provision in §392.3 of the FMCSRs, prohibiting the operation of a commercial motor vehicle while fatigued, continues to apply. Therefore, a driver must get adequate rest before returning to driving.
If I understand correctly what I quoted from the FMCSA website, then I was traveling in personal conveyance. This in no way relieves me of the obligation to record the ELD, but it still does not oblige me to take into account driving time. -
You were not picking up a wrecked pov. You rented a vehicle to recover a wrecked cmv, which is an asset of the motor carrier. I know this because you stated that the dot number was still clearly visible.
Beyond that, PC is a very muddled concept. Most of the PC "rules" have been crafted by interpretion statements, not regulation. There have been many long and contentious debates on here about the appropriateness and legality of PC. You could argue that PC was applicable for the move to pick up the wrecked vehicle, but loading it and driving it away definitely counts as on duty and then driving.
And it's all really moot anyways because YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE A LOG BOOK WITH YOU. I get that you thought you didn't need one, but ignorance of the law is only a defense for crimes over $1,000,000.RomTon Thanks this. -
RomTon and hope not dumb twucker Thank this.
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OK I don't understand this one either but going to comment on it after the OP answers a couple questions.
1 - is the truck you are towing - Dodge - in your name or in the name of your company?
2 - why are you towing it with a junky F150?
The first one is the serious question that needs to be answered.Rookie driver 956, Feedman and RomTon Thank this. -
2. 2021 Ford F-150 PowerBoost Hybrid Runs Like a Rocket towing capacity 15k -
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