Road test with different transmission than im used to

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  1. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    18 are very common and popular in the western US where there are ALOT of tank or hopper A-Trains and bull haulers.

    18 speeds are the easiest trannies to shift in my opinion... And if you happen to miss a gear, there are usually 2 gears that you could grab, for any given speed, without damaging anything.
     
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  3. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    So I drove a GMC General at a previous company... It was a 15 speed... Boss called it a "Box" pattern...

    So using a 10 speed as a reference...

    10 SPEED Lo Range pattern:

    R1 - 1 - 3
    NEUTRAL
    LO - 2 - 4

    10 SPEED Hi Range pattern:

    R2 - 6 - 8
    NEUTRAL
    5 - 7 - 9

    This "Box" pattern shifted in a different order... See below.

    The Lo Range "Box" pattern:

    R1 - 1 - 4
    NEUTRAL
    LO1 - 2 - 3

    Hi Range "Box" pattern:

    R2 - 5 - 8
    NEUTRAL
    LO2 - 6 - 7

    There was also the deep reduction gears as well... But the above should give you the idea of the pattern.

    Anyway have you ever driven a truck with this pattern and what is that pattern actually called and any ideas of what transmission it may have been????
     
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    Anyone remember the old corny IH 15 speed? "Lo, direct, OD on the shift knob?
     
  5. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Yes the box trans is a 15 sp over. The last 2 gears are reversed to gain higher speeds. But you need hp too. Twin sticks are typical of reversed shift positions. Both in the main box and brownie. I hope that answers your question @ Cattleman84.
     
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  6. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Doesn't sound right semi. There was a 13 sp with the gear selector on the the head. Under,direct & over. 15 sp is deep reduction, low and high range and it is like a 10 sp with a thumb button for DR lol. That's my experience.
     
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  7. AModelCat

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    My 1980 W9 has the OD against the dash. RTO15615
     
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  8. okiedokie

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    Right as it should be.
     
  9. AModelCat

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    Well its actually an RTX15615 that was converted over to an RTO. Found that out when the RTX shift forks I ordered weren't even close to what came out.
     
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    Nah, this was an old Transtar or it might have been an old 4000 CO. A 5 speed and lo-dir-hi( not OD, sorry) on the knob. It was 1st, ldh, 2nd, ldh,, and so on. Like a set of sticks, only the aux. was air shifted. You could tell right away if someone thought it was a 13. The other setup that didn't make a lick of sense to me, was an air 4x4, or the Mack air "over and under" 10 speed. Years ago, with small motors ( or Detroits) you needed all those gears to keep the "needle against the pin", but with todays motors, I feel those 13, 15, 18, 27 speeds ( I made that last one up) are unnecessary. Gimme the old tried and true 10 speed RoadRanger any day.
     
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  11. okiedokie

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    Driven a few conversion trans. This old COE freightliner had a 9 sp DOD. How? Reversed shift pattern for the OD and a air switch on the dash for the DOD.
     
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