Rockwell Sq100 - very high backlash

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  1. RGMrizzo

    RGMrizzo Bobtail Member

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    I have a few questions about the axles under my 87 Freightliner flc112.

    Both appear to be sq100s. They have a lot of backlash. I also found that the thrust screw and jamb nut were loose hanging out the side of the rear rear diff. I'd like to know how to set that properly, as well as any tips to cut down the backlash on the axles.

    Does anyone have a service manual for the sq100? I cant seem to find one, otherwise this would already be fixed!

    Thanks.
     
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  3. RGMrizzo

    RGMrizzo Bobtail Member

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    Also, I don't know if this is supposed to happen or not, but when I have JUST the rear rear axle jacked up, the left wheel-pair won't turn foreward (as it should) but appears to ratchet backwards without turning the other wheel. Some type of locker? The truck drives so I know it's not a sheared halfshaft or hub.
     
  4. AModelCat

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    Sounds like a Detroit locker.

    Usually the only way to check backlash is with the carrier assembly out of the axle housing. I don't know of any other way to get a dial indicator on the ring gear to check the backlash.
     
  5. RGMrizzo

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    That's what I assumed, and I can take it out with need be. Do you have any idea what the jamb nut on the side of the diff does, and how it should be adjusted? I can get pictures if you don't know what I'm talking about.
     
  6. AModelCat

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    If its what I'm thinking, its a screw that threads into the housing and is meant to keep the ring gear from deflecting too far under load. I'm a bit foggy on the name but I think its called a thrust screw, jam nut just locks the screw in place. I don't know the spec on how to set it but I do know that it normally should not make contact with the gear.
     
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  7. RGMrizzo

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    Gotcha. So from the sound of it, that screw should NOT effect backlash?

    Im just trying to wrap my head around these axles, coming from being a car mechanic background.
     
  8. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I don't believe it would. From what I remember the only time the screw actually does anything is when the axle is under high load and is being deflected away from the pinion. Normally I believe it should run with a slight gap between the screw and the ring gear.
     
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    I haven't worked on one of these in a very long time so my info could be a bit off.
     
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    Understood, your info is helpful, thanks.
     
  11. W923

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    The thrust screw shouldn’t touch the ring gear unless it’s heavily loaded.
    It’s possible that it will touch if it’s adjusted wrong or the diff case bearings are loose.
    Some of those axles had a block of steel on the end of the screw so hopefully it’s not loose enough to let it get off the end of the screw. some just had a screw with a rounded end. Either design you tighten the screw till it hits the ring gear and then back off 1/2 turn. Don’t use to much force to tighten it, just snug with your fingers and a short wrench.
    The screw won’t affect backlash unless the case bearings are really loose. If you’re just turning the drive shaft and feeling when it takes up it’s going to have a decent amount of play even with backlash set properly.
    There’s no way to actually check the backlash without removing the chunk from the axle housing
     
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