Running out of hrs at shippers-doesnt seem to be any solution

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by chp56, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    24 hours OOS, and for many more reasons than just 0.02 (see guidance below) -0.04


    Also of note:

     
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  3. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    You DO realize that you'll be put OOS regardless of whether or not you've been deemed to have committed an 'egregious' violation, right? Being deemed to have committed an 'egregious' violation simply guarantees that you will receive the maximum penalty for your violation.

     
  4. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    There is, but only under certain defined circumstances:

    Also relevant:

    And this:

     
  5. Trucail

    Trucail Medium Load Member

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    Yes, I know. I do not go into violation. Just telling you the company info.
     
  6. MNdriver

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    There's them words again...."physical control"

     
  7. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    ...and them other words! :)

    That defense would never fly because you can't have it in your possession to begin with.

    I've always been on paper logs so isn't wasn't much of an issue unless I was in a place where I knew no parking was nearby. I remember twice I nicely advised the security guard your company detained me and ran me out of my hours and I legally can't drive. If I'm in an accident your company will be held responsible. Even though they didn't allow trucks to stay on their property they made special accommodations for me. That doesn't work every where but it's worth a try when you give them a legality wake up call.

    If I remember correctly Meltom who works in safety tells his people just to move and document why. When you are stuck between a rock and a hard place something has to happen regardless. I think an auditor would see the violation, understand and overlook it. You would just have to move as close and reasonably as possible and start your 10 over again when you get parked. If someone gave you a hard time then you ask what would you do?

    Blatantly disabling the vehicle or EOBR is just plain sneaky and will get you in trouble. Being forced into a situation can be understandable. The regulations are from perfect and need a major overhaul.
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Understatement of the century
     
  9. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Not so fast. There is a provision:

    Here is an example of an error in the regulations. The guidance uses the term 'owner-operator', while at the same time, the following guidance is given regarding that term:

    In my opinion, the very fact that the government can't keep their own regulations straight is a compelling reason that the entire agency needs a review and overhaul along with the regulations.
     
  10. Oregon Grown

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    Right..Ive had them text me too and was coool with it ,its usually more convenient than the phone ringing. But to track my location made me feel uncomfortable. In my opinion NOBODY needs to be tracking my location at all times,now maybe I'm wrongband thats what the industry and world is coming to but I didnt care fore the idea.
     
  11. Oregon Grown

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    You cant make this kinda stuff up. I was completely in shock that this was possible.
     
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