Running short loads

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Dino soar, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    @rollin coal

    I appreciate your response. You've been around a long time so I'm sure you know the drill.

    I have a pretty low overhead so maybe that will work to my advantage. That does NOT mean that I want to run cheap. I'm just glad that I do not have any big debts or big payments.

    I wonder who takes those loads at those prices?

    I know that guys sometimes take a short load to reposition themselves, but I don't know that just a hundred miles in this area put you into that much of a better area. Plus just a dead head of a hundred miles for a really good paying load isn't worth taking your time up with that little load that will tie you up all day.

    But I am curious who would take a load that will tie you up all day and make like $450 or less minus the cost of your dead head.

    That right there is at the point it's not worth starting the truck.
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    @Dino soar Look, don't sweat what is out of your hands. It really doesn't matter to you what anyone else books loads for so forget that nonsense. I saw a buddy of mine before cancer took him away clear $2,000 a week after fuel on short runs that had him sleeping at home every night + weekends and one of his runs only paid $300 gross on 60 miles and he hardly burned a tank of fuel that whole week to do it. And that was during 2015-16 which was as bad if not worse than now. You do whatever you can scratch out at times to make it.

    Now to some people that $2,000 ain't #### but around these parts you'll be just fine pulling in that kind of money until times get better. Hell I had weeks during the same time frame I made half that or worse doing what I did very different from what he did. He always thought my way was crazy, I think nothing of deadheading 500-700 miles right now to good paying freight, I do it all the time, and I gave up on doing things the way he was. Sometimes he did better, sometimes I did. Really it's more about what you want to do than what anyone on social media thinks. If you can make it work that's great. Some people do
     
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  4. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    What Rollin' Coal said here is absolutely true.


    Who takes those loads? I do, but not if it's anywhere near 100 miles deadhead. I probably do one of those a week on average to fit in some work when another one day load dragged and took 1.5, or to reposition, or if I'm not prebooked and the boards are dead and I get tired or making calls and just want to get some work done and not sit that day.

    I am not making what my truck needs per day some of those days but $600 on 200 is good at $3 a mile and $500 on 100 is certainly good. Your fuel costs drop for the week with one or two of those loads and you get a little time to catch up on office work, get some exercise, whatever. I'm out here to work but I still like to find balance where I don't feel like I'm working all the time.

    I would caution you of one other thing if you're going to try to run short loads. Don't run yourself to death just to get home to your own bed every night. I fall in to that trap sometimes and it makes me feel worse having run til midnight just to get home and being tired the next day when you could just pull over earlier and sleep in your truck a couple nights that week. It's hard to schedule home right in the middle of a run. I'm lucky if I manage it one night every 2-3 weeks.

    Just a thought.
     
  5. PPLC

    PPLC Road Train Member

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    It's all highly situational, I'd suspect. I pay my one local guy $500 for an in town run. We'll stack him up two or sometimes three a day. He cleared two on Monday morning and one on Tuesday. His total loaded miles for three runs was 72, and he brought $1500 in. I know he did at least one more with one or his other customers on Tuesday.

    Trick is finding something like that.
     
  6. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    Ummm, please give me a call if this happens a lot and you need coverage. Happy to drive up! :D
     
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  7. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    @86scotty

    I appreciate the advice. I'm not really so much concerned about being home every single night. When I was a driver for other companies I kind of liked it that I could take off early on a Monday and come back Tuesday afternoon and it was like getting two days work in one shot. Like it's seemed better to do that than rushing to get home and you're home for 10 hours, although back then the break was 8 hours, and then running to get back to work. Sleeping in a nice sleeper never bothered me.

    I just don't really want to be too far from home, for quite a few reasons. But I was thinking about what @RollinCoal said about doing what you like and that makes a lot of sense. There was a time in my career that I did these crazy mail runs and one of them went from Philadelphia to Cincinnati. Those mail runs are so tight on time the driving from Philadelphia to Cincinnati took I think 12 or 13 hours if I remember correctly. The Run was so tight that in 12 or 13 hours of driving you literally had maybe 20 minutes that you could stop or you would be late.

    I'm not wired that way. That was really hard for me to do. Some guys can do that with no problem but not me. I'm happy driving 2 hours or maybe 3 hours but beyond that it just gets to be too much without at least taking a real break. If I had to do it I would, but I really enjoy the two to three-hour Drive or less.

    I can only do 100 mile load for $500 if I really made a lot more per day all week and that was just my easy day or whatever you want to call it.

    I don't know how often I would get it but I'd really be looking for like 7 or 750 unless there was almost no deadhead. Then maybe I could be like 650 or something like that.
     
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  8. Dino soar

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    @PPDCT

    I appreciate you explaining how that works out for you and the carrier.

    That would be more the kind of situation that I'd be looking for.

    I'm not suggesting any information from you, I understand the rules here. But what type of a brokerage would you think would have shorter loads like that they could string together? Would that be a smaller brokerage or larger brokerage or is it just luck of the draw Whoever has a customer that has those types of loads?

    I've thought about finding a broker that I could tell him hey if you have two of them then I could do it for a discounted price. But then the little guy in my head says that if you drop the price in order to get two, there's a possibility he may just tell you the second one canceled and give that to somebody else for cheap. Then you're stuck tied up for the day at a discounted rate when the broker shafted you.

    Although I have heard before people say that sometimes it's difficult to get anyone to do those loads because of the obvious reasons that they can tie you up all day for a little bit of money.
     
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  9. PPLC

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    I'd suspect that there are both large and small brokerages that have stuff like this. I'm the only guy in my office with these types of regular arrangements, out of fifteen of us.
     
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  10. Moonshadow1918

    Moonshadow1918 Light Load Member

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    You can live very comfortable on short runs . 2 yrs ago i was home every night weekends off clearing 2700.00 week with 2200 truck note. I burned 400 in fuel every week . I leased my truck to a shipper with Mega accts P&G Pepsi few others. Unfortunately 1 of there company trucks backed into and destroyed my cab while i was in the warehouse getting Bol . They fixed it but said i was parked in a no zone and terminated my lease. Loved that job for 2yrs now im OTR making less on some days. That was probably best job i had in 28yrs. Local and dedicated
     
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