One thing I've learned since getting my DOT number is how many 3rd party compliance companies come out of the woodwork, most of them being scams. Typically, they're easy to spot. However, these guys at Foley keep emailing and calling non-stop. I haven't answered them once or responded to any of their emails. Yet, they continue to pester me. Points for persistence, I suppose.
Anyway... Is a safety audit a real thing that the DOT or FMCSA require or is this just another scare tactic to try and get me to call them? My DOT number is set up as intrastate so I'm not crossing state lines and I'm not running outside of 150 air miles so ELD's don't apply to me, either. Don't know if any of those things are pertinent to whether or not a safety audit is required.
If it really is a requirement, surely there's a way to do it on your own without a 3rd party getting involved, right? Thus far I haven't needed one and would really prefer to not pay someone to do something I'm totally capable of doing on my own.
Safety Audit... Is It A Thing?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by The_SnowMan710, Oct 27, 2025.
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Anything from Foley is a scam.......
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That's what I figured. Thanks for the response!
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I cant speak to the safety audit for intrastate..... when I went through a DOT audit within my first year I believe they emailed me to establish contact.The_SnowMan710 Thanks this.
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In Texas if intrastate someone from the state would contact you,if federal they would contact you directly.
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Look, next time Foley calls answer the phone and calmly ask them to put you on their do not call list and ask to be taken off their mailing list.
I actually used them in the beginning to help me create a legit driver file. They treated me well and I can’t say anything bad about them. For me they were easy to deal with and communicated well. Once I got what I needed I canceled the service. Never once did they pressure me into staying. Canceling was easy and pleasant.
Nebraska will give you a safety audit within 12 months for intrastate. It’s really not a big deal and will probably just be a document exchange via email. Make sure you are enrolled in a drug testing program and have your clearinghouse setup.
I’m interstate out of Florida and had my safety audit within 6 months I think. Mine was handled by the Florida Highway Patrol. Was initially contacted by phone and then everything was done via email. Was a big document dump for me. They can do the audit in person so just be aware. Typically they save the in person visits for carriers that are having trouble with violations imo.
You don’t need a third party to set you up unless you’re totally clueless. I was clueless about the driver file so that’s why I paid Foley to set it up. Once I saw it I realized how easy it was to do myself.W923 and The_SnowMan710 Thank this. -
Yeah, its a real thing. Like some of the other guys here, I too was naive about the administrative rules and what to expect. I didn't hire anybody to do any prep work. I got the little green book down and went through what was required. Some of which is trivial, depending on the personality of the auditor.
I had a lady that come did my DOT audit. I was based in Louisiana. She mainly just wanted to make sure that I was generally in compliance. If something was wrong or not in order, or not in place, she just said you need to get this in order and that was the end of it. She didn't write any citations or anything of what they are allowed to do. She just explained that It wasn't done or wasn't in compliance and explained how I should go about doing it.
It's just a bunch of administrative stuff that company drivers dont ever have to deal with and don't know about.
You gotta have a file for each employee.... including yourself. You gotta have a safety person.... which was my wife. It can actually be you... you just gotta have a safety person named etc, etc.. It's just trivial stuff mostly.
She wanted to look at my log books and fuel tickets etc. I think some BOLs etc. Again, trivial stuff.
I think she had pulled my DOT record etc.
Again, I just read through the green book that outlines the admin stuff and just kinda winged it.
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Didn't have the new entrant program when I started. Also wasn't inundated with calls/e-mails. About the only one around was JJ Keller. Get one sample DQ file, copied out the sample across each page and you had everything you needed. Still have a few files that you can see the whiteout on the copy. LOL
D/A was easy, could do it all at one place. Go pee in the morning, few hours later have the results.Concorde and The_SnowMan710 Thank this. -
Thanks for the input, everyone! It is helpful!
I did get set up with the clearinghouse on my own and got in with a drug test facility right here in the town that I live near. It was a little wonky, but not impossible to do on your own. I'm the sole owner/operator of the single truck that I have with the company that I own. I don't have a driver file on myself but it wouldn't be hard to do that at all, just one of those "little things" that you have to force yourself to do at some point. I assumed that if the DOT or FMSCA really wants to audit me they would contact me directly. It's increasingly clear that these 3rd party companies are not a required thing. I'm sure there's probably a handful of them out there that are actually legit but it seems that about 99% of them out there are pumping you full of fear to pump out your pocketbook.
No offense to anyone on this forum but I've worked with a lot of drivers over the years and most of them are not into doing paperwork, let alone catching all the small nuances that the DOT and FMCSA have. Most of the guys I know just want to drive the truck. Several guys I know had their own truck but eventually failed because they didn't keep up on the paperwork. Their examples have helped to keep me motivated to stay on top of such things. I'm no expert by any means but I can see how these 3rd party companies can easily talk guys into services that they don't need. Heck, it happened to me with FCCR (I made another thread about them a while back...). I've read on here and heard from people that I've talked to in person that driving a truck isn't even the half of it and I'm certainly getting a crash course in that right now!hope not dumb twucker Thanks this. -
Get the 'DESK COPY" of the FCMSA Little green book of regulations. throughout each section is inserts of guidance generated from carrier inquiries over the years regarding that section of the regulations. It will be real useful in completing a Part 391 application among many other questions.
Unlike the stone age [J J Keller is a printer] you can just google a DOT driver application from the web where we used to have tablets of forms and limited ability to copy more.
Like mentioned above a sample set from J J Keller white out "SAMPLE" watermark and redrawn lines, etc. provided a ton of application files once copiers became more available.
WAAAY back there was another printer that had a one page 'fill in the blanks' application and it passed audits.
New Carrier audits started the use of the phone and email and widespread use of state personnel to get the program moving.
The actual compliance audit that I experienced in 2008 was a two week on-site affair conducted by a haz mat specialist; she found the false logs too!
I know of another recent audit generated by roadside violations that was handled by email.
In ever case the DOT local field office usually calls and sends a letter.
Anyone else may offer legitimate help But at what cost?Last edited: Oct 29, 2025
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