saying NO to cheap freight

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BAYOU, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Having over 40 O/O's under our authority that have the ability to run their business the way they want I see two primary business models.

    1. Evaluate the rate on each load and NEVER haul under a certain rate. PERIOD. These are the drivers that would need to get a R/T rate going into places like FL or CO because the chances of seeing their minimum coming out of these markets.

    2. Evaluate their rates based on a period of time (typically by the week) or the trip (maybe out and back or a series of loads). These drivers know what the lower rate is in markets like FL and CO and get enough going in to cover the lower rate coming out.

    We have drivers that do very well in both models but in general the drivers that do the 2nd model average a better rate on all miles. The big one is they have much less DH but also they get a good rate going into the tough markets. Customer know the tough markets and know they have to pay more to compensate the low rates. And the key is to get more than you need so your average is higher.

    No single model works for everyone. They key is knowing the markets and the business model that you are comfortable with.
     
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  3. arijyousef

    arijyousef Bobtail Member

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    what is a god milage program to use . we are a new owner operator and still learning. I'm using get loaded board to get my loads and if there is any thing better out there please let me know as well. thx
     
  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Matt, Matt, Matt. I need to see your math on that.

    You ain't saving a buck a mile on fuel I don't care what you drive. Fuel for my 30 year old Cat currently costs me ~$.53 USD/loaded mile. How can you do a buck a mile better than that?

    And for the real advantage, unscheduled repairs on that 3406B since spring of 2014 are a grand total of $250 for a fuel shutoff solonoid. Unscheduled downtime since the spring of 2014 = 4 hrs.
     
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  5. Derailed

    Derailed Road Train Member

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    Must be one hell of a new truck
     
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  6. Lone Ranger 13

    Lone Ranger 13 Road Train Member

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    A FUEL SHUTOFF VALVE????????? It's time to trade that POS and get u one of them magical brand new trucks!!!! What some of the less experienced drivers apparently don't understand is older , non-egr trucks are capable of getting good fuel economy while having much lower comprehensive insurance costs while possibly being more dependalble and easier and cheaper to fix.
     
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  7. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Right now we have sitting in our shop

    1. 1998 M11 that will not fire unless we use ether. Seems like there is fuel getting to the injectors but they are not opening. Electrical problem.
    2. 2005 Acert with electrical/emmisions issues that cuts all power intermittanly.
    3. 2008 ISX that needs (another) new starter because when the battery voltage drops too low the starter stays on and fries itself.

    I think they all should go to the Ricthie Brothers auction and get replaced by mechanicals.
     
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  9. Derailed

    Derailed Road Train Member

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    My first truck was a Marmon with a 425 B. She had some miles on her when I bought her. I figured I put around 300000 on it when I owned it running heavy all the time.That fuel solenoid was the only thing that ever gave me trouble on that truck.
     
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  10. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    rank! rank! rank! you forgot to factor in all the extra beer $$$ you save operating that old wore out truck!
     
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  11. FreightlinerBoy

    FreightlinerBoy Bobtail Member

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    You can easily make about 700 dollars going from south carolina to new york and the drive is not hard
     
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