Scale house forcing drivers to pay fine on the spot or else

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  1. mpow66m

    mpow66m Heavy Load Member

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    at the place im at thry had a straight truck 22000 lbs over weight.was like a 8000 dollar fine.scale master almost blew a gasket.
     
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  3. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

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    How are you allowed to leave the scale being over gross?
     
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  4. HalpinUout

    HalpinUout Road Train Member

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  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...pterID=49&SeqStart=153500000&SeqEnd=158500000

    To reiterate:
    625 ILCS 5/15-112(f) Whenever an axle load of a vehicle exceeds axle weight limits allowed by the provisions of a permit an arrest ticket shall be issued, but the owner or operator of the vehicle may shift the load so as to comply with the provisions of the permit. Where such shifting of a load to comply with the permit is accomplished, the owner or operator of the vehicle may then proceed.

    In other words, under Illinois law, they CANNOT hold you there demanding payment. Once you shift or reduce the load to make it legal, they MUST let you go on your way. Period.

    Also of note:

    Under 625 ILCS 5/15-112(d), if you're less than 2000 pounds over on an axle, but your gross is OK, they must allow you to shift the weight to make it legal and they cannot cite you. Again, that's the law.

    Then there's 625 ILCS 5/15-112(e) which says if you're weighed on a platform and are less than 1000 pounds over gross....or weighed on portables placed under the wheels to weigh individual wheels and you are less than 2000 over gross...they must allow you to reduce the load to make it legal and they cannot cite you. Once again, that's the law.

    If you've got an APU, 625 ILCS 5/15-112(e-5) is the allowance for 400 pounds (or the weight of the unit) over the legal limit for axle, gross, or bridge...but does NOT allow the extra weight to be on a towed unit. So you've still got to have your trailer legal, but can buy a few extra pounds on the tractor. You've got to have written certification showing the unit's weight, and you may need to demonstrate that it is fully functional...but if you meet the requirements, you're good.

    All in all, Illinois isn't really all that bad. You've just got to know the rules of the game you're playing. Even the fines aren't all that bad as long as you're SOMEWHAT close to where you ought to be...
     
  6. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    Are you asking for the cat scale or the dot scale house? If its the dot scale house its because they don't give a crap about safety its all about the money. The cat scale operator has no idea whether you have a permitted load or a multi axle trailer that could haul that weight.
     
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  7. HalpinUout

    HalpinUout Road Train Member

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    Seems with hauling trash in a transfer trailer with my previous company it would be more economical to just pay the local police the money and move along... And that's what they did....
     
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  8. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

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    I was 2500 lbs over gross on a tanker, $600. fine and Not allowed to move until load was legal, Il. scale house, Safety Clean paid the fine and sent a tank to offload a few hundred
    gallons til it was legal
     
  9. WHY NOT

    WHY NOT Light Load Member

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    Thanks for that. We haul all our loads in IL and I'm going to keep a copy of that in the truck just for safe measure.
     
  10. HalpinUout

    HalpinUout Road Train Member

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    Where?
     
  11. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

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    Frankfort scale I80 heading east.
     
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