Scania v8 730hp

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  1. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    this is only problem i can see


    here in my country and in south/south east europe it is not possible to get anything longer than this

    no way to find parking get in yard for loading/unloading sometimes trucks need here up to 20minutes to reverse back in narrow places to be loaded

    and things like this

    but in most of EU lands it is possible to run larger trucks
     
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  3. HOLLAND

    HOLLAND Light Load Member

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    Holland got also nordic trucks and it will be great if germany does it to.
    So whe are connected with scandinavia. And belgium has also plans for it.
     
  4. Jacko1

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    Hi, it's the same jacko from lastnight, slightly diff name cos I didn't keep my password as I never thought I would be posting here again, yes you are absolutely correct, American trucks are better for you because they are already the spec you need, drum brakes and 6*4, to have a euro in this spec it would be high cost as this spec in euro would be special order cos it's not a spec that is used very much in Europe, I'm aware disc brakes are useless in off road situations and you need 6*4 and cross locks for the type of terrain you guys gotta travel , biggest respect to you guys and the tough job you do! But in here in the states these trucks are mostly on the interstate, people here think that u need 6*4 for snow etc. but in actual fact a rear lift provides better traction on snow especially snow on asphalt cos you can transfer the weight onto the single drive flattening out that rubber and pressing it hard into the asphalt. A rear steer would also lessen the understeer at the front making them safer in all conditions. 6*2 also much lighter and easier on fuel and tyres.

    American trucks are good for your conditions but here they need to change, problem is fuel prices are going one way, UP! American configurations just won't cut Here when the fuel gets more expensive, my pete does 6.4 mpg that's about 7.6 in euro figures, at the weights I'm pulling it should be 10mpg on these roads, scanias new r730 im told by my friend and scania sales man in Brisbane will do 11mpg at 45 tonnes, 9.5 as a b-double at 68 tonnes, mercedes say their new actros will do 12 mpg, here in America things need to change cos when fuel prices reach euro level Alot of guys including my friends Here will be hurting,

    American trucks are quiete a long way behind Europe in truck technology and safety, I would hate to be in this pete in a roll over , euro laws make sure cabs at home can take 10 tonnes per pillar while the swedes do 15 per pillar , ok u got a bonnet for a direct head of but those are rare, anyway euro cabs are designed to "jump back " in a head on with the crumple zone at the rear, Also if fitted with a retarder you would never heat your brakes, I used come down from mont blanc , it's a 26 km 22% decline , I would come down there at 44 tonnes using only the retarder braking lightly for corners, this is a far better and in my eyes safer than a Jake brake which is good but just wouldn't cope with extra weight, Jake brake isnt as good as a retarder in any case, I miss mine alot.

    I hope that American trucks will improve. They will have to , fuel economy is already playing a big part here but prices fir them will rise with improvements just like Europe , these rigs are about only 65% of the equivelant spec scania, but it's shows, quality doesn't exist here, beautiful as some of these trucks are perceived to be they are getting very impractical in an ever tightening world .
     
  5. 98989

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    germany make troubles

    they have more than 20 laws related to EMS


    some of them are good but some are big crap


    1st
    it is still not sure is b-double legal for EMS in DE


    2. truck with 7axles are only up to 46t

    3 than they require 6x4(25% of total load on drive axles) which is craziness

    4 540hp

    5 law require 385 tires on front axle someone who made that law make very big mistake

    what will be with low deck trucks 385/55 are to high 355/50 or 375 could be solution

    6.law require all axles except front axle to be steered
    so what will be with construction and logg trucks

    7.so there are laws that require underrun protection ....

    8 all axles need to have abs ebs and truck must be equipted with EPS

    which was problem when this law was released because there was no ESP for more than one trailer

    also it is still impossible to get esp on 6x4 on most brands

    9 ACC, lane keeping camera
    retarer euro 4 engine.....

    10 route determination so you have only planed routes for this

    11 to ensure that you travel only on those routes you have to be equipted with GPS

    12 also some kind of side-rear cameras probably for blind spot

    13 axle weight sensor for each axle

    14 if truck is overloaded you have to drive same speed as man can walk

    15 not allowed to drive hazardous materials.

    16 not allowed to drive during snow and ice so you have to detach trailer and go for another

    in case that use (a combination of ems -tractor+trailer+central axle trailer) you have to detach central axle trailer and drive semitrailer throughout that area and detach semitrailer and go back for tandem-centralaxle trailer and drive it with empty tractor , driving without trailer and pulling central axle trailer with empty tractor is more dangerous than drive EMS )

    17. this laws ban bullbar

    so there is 25 of those laws but i forget some of them





    .....so if they gonna to allow EMS but with those laws above than is better to not allow them

    if guys from scandinavia can drive 6x2 and 60tons on their winters than anybody can
     
  6. HOLLAND

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    Most of it sucks. Whe got these combinations 10 years here. And the test is done.
    Every argument from german politic is not come true. Like they are getting more goods on the road, and less on the railway system.
     
  7. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    yes you are right their rail lobby is strong

    most of those laws are pointless
     
  8. Pablo-UA

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    I haul 20 ton in tint with Century Class... avg fuel milage ~33l/100 km from Lg to Moscow. Mercedes actros - ~32-33L/100 km.....
    So , really no difference!
     
  9. Pablo-UA

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    Volvo cabs are different thing, but newer US cabs are built with some elementf of EU cabs and really like european cabins, Paccar used DAF experience, in new Cascadia cab there are many things from Actros cabin, so new US cabs really much better now.

    What we see? this is Sw crash test!!!!

    European improvement is reletad generally with emission. No notisable better fuel milage.. I do not say about Hybrid.

    if US and EU trucks share engines, how fuel milage may differ?

    For example MAN D28 - is Maxxforce, DD13/15/16 - Mercedes OM471, PaccarMX - DAF105 engine... Cummins and CAT are used in EU too!
     
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