Schneider Chat Room version 2.0

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by mickeyrat, Jun 4, 2013.

  1. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    GR not to argue but what regulation number is it that states continuing certification and evaluation.

    The only one I've ever found or been directed to is for Hazmat not driver skills.

    I've even asked regulatory and safety at schneider for the regulation number and have never been provided it.

    I know solo owner operators with their own authority that do not have to take a yearly driving test.

    I know it's Company policy at Schneider bit it is not DOT mandated even though Schneider misleads drivers into believing that it is.

    Now if there's a Regulation number I can reference I'll gladly retract my statement.

    I've worked for smaller companies and never did the annual check ride.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Nah that dog don't hunt. I've been leased onto small carriers for a long time with no such nonsense as this. Why would the rules for their MC number be any different? And I find it hard to believe that they just shine it on. No one has ever made me perform a skills test, again.
     
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  4. gentleroger

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    Rule 390.3(2) Every driver and employee shall be instructed regarding, and shall comply with, all applicable regulations contained in this subchapter.

    Rule 391.31(e) states that a carrier must keep a certificate of a road test showing a driver is qualified to operate a Large Commercial Vehicle.

    Part of CSA is the "Safety Management Cycle" which 'suggests' as only a government agency can 'suggest' annual driver training.
     
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  5. TennMan

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    The original road test satisfies the requirement and does not require a yearly road test.

    If so a driver would be required to maintain and carry an updated copy of said certification to be compilant.

    Per DOT the possession of a Valid CDL is proof of said certification.
     
  6. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    I'm not arguing company policy for now, I'm strictly arguing the Mandate.
     
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  7. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    And your correct, it's a company policy, not a regulation. I'm told they do it every 90 days. :eek:
     
  8. gentleroger

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    It's a question of interpretation. How do you prove compliance with 390.3(2)? By having annual training where the employee acknowledges receipt and agreement to encase and company policy.

    FMSCA regulations are conveniently vague in places. It states that a carrier must ensure physical aptitude but not how to avoid ADA. Large carriers need to have policies in place to cover the most insane interpretation possible.

    You're right that only the intial road test certificate need be maintained under a strict reading of the statute. However once you add in all the "guidance documents" for CSA (which have forced of law see Chevron vs EPA) things become murky.

    My personal interpretation jives with yours. I'm just an armchair lawyer though. There may be other - non-FMCSA - laws and regulations I am not aware of.
     
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  9. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    I'm not a lawyer either I just play one after my 1st pint of shine on TTR.
     
  10. Home_on_wheels

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    We are not employees.
     
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  11. gentleroger

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    Let it be told throughout throughout the forum - two members disagreed without becoming disagreeable.
     
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