Yeah, I have that atlas - the laminated spiral bound one that I can write on with a dry-erase marker. Thing is, that weight was with about 50 gallons of fuel. My tanks hold 200 gallons total, and they're right behind the steer tires, under the doors. I'm sure I'm over on my steers since I filled it up. My route passed through KY, TN, MO, and AR today, and will enter TX tomorrow...
Posting from the Flying J in Texarkana, AR...
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Schneider National Carriers - Green Bay, Wi.?
Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by FastFossil, Sep 14, 2005.
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I am scheduled to attend Schneider's training in a couple of weeks. One issue I face is that the recruiter led me to believe that Schneider only holds you to a one year contract after training and that they pay for the training costs. After receiving their contract in the mail, I noted that you have to sign an eighteen month agreement. Additionally, the contract states that Schneider withholds $154 a month out of your paycheck for twenty-eight months to pay back training costs. I asked the recruiter about this contract and was told that it was made clear upfront that the commitment is for eighteen months and that the $154 a month paycheck withholding is ONLY if you quit before the eighteen months are up. Maybe I am missing something but a contradiction seems evident. Will somebody who drives for Schneider please help me understand? Thanks.[/b]
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Bryman said:I am scheduled to attend Schneider's training in a couple of weeks. One issue I face is that the recruiter led me to believe that Schneider only holds you to a one year contract after training and that they pay for the training costs. After receiving their contract in the mail, I noted that you have to sign an eighteen month agreement. Additionally, the contract states that Schneider withholds $154 a month out of your paycheck for twenty-eight months to pay back training costs. I asked the recruiter about this contract and was told that it was made clear upfront that the commitment is for eighteen months and that the $154 a month paycheck withholding is ONLY if you quit before the eighteen months are up. Maybe I am missing something but a contradiction seems evident. Will somebody who drives for Schneider please help me understand? Thanks.Click to expand...
This is the first indication that they have amended their policies, and the fact that they have changed their story with you, is not making matters any better. I don't like dishonesty or the changing of vital terms in the middle of a deal.
That is absolutely a glaring contradiction, and I would respectfully point it out to the recruiter.
Be sure to refer them to THIS site when you do so. I've been one of their biggest supporters, and have sent them many applicants, but they seem to be slipping in their attention to consistency, which was one of the biggest reasons why I have been standing behind them. This is the second instance of a problem that an applicant has had with them. The third will place them with down with all the other training carriers, in my book.
The $154.00 monthly deduction bothers me the most. Unless there is specific language to the effect that you will receive this money back, with interest upon completion of the service commitment period, I would back off completely. Actually, if it were me, it would give me cause to back off anyway.
I can't make your decisions, but it already appears that you have a problem with what has transpired, and quite frankly, I don't blame you.
I don't like deductions taken from paychecks, as a carrot, to persuade someone to stay with a company, in order to get it back.
I sure hope to hear back from you that they have reconsidered these two points.
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Apprently the Dallas contract was changed approximately two weeks ago. However, it was not updated on the website until around the middle of this past week.
ONLY the Dallas contract requires 18 months. If you were planning on attending the Dallas Training Academy and were talking to a recruiter PRIOR to the contract being changed or the changed contract being made PUBLIC .. I'd suggest pressing the issue and seeing if you can get the 12 month contract, since that is the contract you were initially looking at.
With regards to the payment of $154.
2. Tuition: The tuition cost is $3,500 (three thousand five-hundred dollars) due and payable persuant to the provisions set forth in Section 6 of this Contract.Click to expand...
6. DATE CONTRACT BECOMES DUE: The full principal amount will be immediately due and payable upon the first date to occur:
a. On the day the student fails to successfully complete the STA Program because the student withdraws from the Program or is expelled.
b. Upon the Student's successful completion of the STA Program, on the day the Student declines to accept an offer of full-time employment as an over-the-road truck driver with Schneider National, Inc.
c. On the day, the Student voluntarily terminates his or her employment with Schneider National, Inc., if employment is terminated before Student has completed eighteen (18) months of continuous, full-time employment.
d. On the day, Schneider Ntional, Inc. discharges Student for any reason, if the discharge occurs before Student has completed eighteen (18) months full-time continuous employment.Click to expand...
Every company has the right to 'change' policies or contracts, however, since they did not make the contract public knowledge at the time the change was made, and chose to do it at a later date, I'd suggest, again, if you are attending the DALLAS training center, push for the one you were negotiating for.
If you are attending any other training center, it's a moot point, since they are all still at 12 months.
Here is the link to ALL the contracts and other information SNI has made publically available. Process Forms
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Thanks for the responses everybody. Turbo, I have already decided to walk from this situation. The recruiter made no sense when telling me they will take $154 from my paycheck ONLY if I quit prior to the eighteen months. If I quit then there will be no paycheck for them to withdraw funds. Maybe I misread that section of the contract but it seems clear to me. Clearly, the recruiter is aware of this policy or she should not have entertained my question. Thanks again everybody.
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cnichols said:Apprently the Dallas contract was changed approximately two weeks ago. However, it was not updated on the website until around the middle of this past week.Click to expand...
Thanks so much for clearing up the confusion, and for posting the relevant information. I feel much better about the situation, and assume that they had their reasons for instituting the policy change.
I'm still on board with endorsing Schneider as the only recruiting carrier worth consideration. That 18 month stretch may turn off a few people, but again, there must be some good reasons why this was done.
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Bryman said:Thanks for the responses everybody. Turbo, I have already decided to walk from this situation. The recruiter made no sense when telling me they will take $154 from my paycheck ONLY if I quit prior to the eighteen months. If I quit then there will be no paycheck for them to withdraw funds. Maybe I misread that section of the contract but it seems clear to me. Clearly, the recruiter is aware of this policy or she should not have entertained my question. Thanks again everybody.Click to expand...
Remember that it's not what the recruiter says that is important. It's what is on the contract that counts. Cnichols seems to be clear that there are no funds taken from a driver's check for training on a monthly basis...
I think you owe it to yourself to at least try to get someone on the phone that can clear it up to your satisfaction.
What worries me is that you may consider another training carrier, and I can tell you point blank, that Schneider is as good as it gets when one is looking to exchange training for a period of commitment.
I hope that I am not the one that planted any seeds of doubt in your mind. After looking at some updates on their site, I have found that the other complaint offered in private was unfounded, but that's as much as I can offer in here.
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I'm planning to take Schneider's driving course too, 3 June 06 class in Green Bay. I just looked at my contract and it has a one year committment...not 18 months.
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Dieseldog,
That's correct. The only contract that has been changed is the Dallas contract. All the other contracts remain at the 12 month committment.
I myself have an interview on Friday and am aiming to start my training on June 10 at Greenbay as well
Good luck to you.
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If you live in Georgia and go to a local community college for driver training, you might qualify for free training thru the Hope Scholarship.
Call the college and check it out. I've heard this is the case at Griffin Tech in Griffin Georgia.
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