Securement Question

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  1. Hammer166

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    Yeah, good luck on getting the same answer every time on that one!
     
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  4. Hurst

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    Its all good fellas.

    We all need to look out for each other. I'll give the shirt off my back if I know its for a good cause.

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  5. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Hurst,wouldn't it be better to use 2 chains (1 left,1 right) on the first and last lift (so 4 chains) and do the rest by securing 2 together?
    Giving us 10 chains used.
    Doughts?
     
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  6. Hurst

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    You mean an effective 10 points of securement?

    The way I worked it out in my head afterward (Hind sight is always 20/20) was to use 4 chains like I originally did,.. 2 on each side. But instead of grouping the lifts together,.. leave a gap after every 2nd lift in order to create an independent segment of chain using binders to secure the chain between each group of 2. This gives more than enough WLL for the load and makes everyone happy with a secure load and I didnt have to drag 16 chains and binders out to do it. Basically 4 points of contact for 2 machines/lifts.

    This is my thinking and how I will try to do them if I get a load like that again.

    My issue originally was that it really bothered me when the rental equipment Co driver gave me such a hard time. It made me self conscience that maybe I could be wrong. Thats why I made the post here in order to get other opinions and to learn what would be the proper way to do it. Truthfully,.. there are dozens of different ways to do it. I'd rather keep it as simple as possible, yet not get hassled by DOT.

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  7. cnsper

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    I am of the mind that the more securement that they see the less they look. I have not been hassled about securement at any time because of that.
     
  8. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    They way I plan to do it again will add 4 more binders than what I originally used in order to create the independent segments.

    I've only been hassled once in Oregon during one of their spot checks at a rest area. You know the ones where they drag rookie officers and use truckers as examples.

    They couldnt find anything wrong with my truck or trailer. (Surprise,. and its not for lack of effort on their part. Once in Tx they did a spot check,.. couldnt find anything,.. then took me into the bay to get under the truck and actually measure brake adjustment (Which I always readjust my brakes once a month myself,.. so I am inside secretly thumbing my nose at them because I know they wont find anything) They were going to let me go,.. then he brought the trainee back over and they started knit picking my load. He found a small knick in one of my straps,.. barely 1 or 2 mm,.. he said it was over the limit. I needed to replace it or be put out of service. Just so happens I always carry a box of 10 new straps before I leave home. Just blows because it put an Unsecure load violation on mine and my carriers CSA.

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  9. Hammer166

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    Just remember, @Hurst , it's all about $afety!

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  10. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    Thats what they would like you to believe.

    I noticed no trucks with Oregon tags being pulled in. Only older trucks like mine with out of state tags.

    At least in Fla they are equal in who they screw over. They love to target local scrap and tree haulers. Local hot shot trucks are also a favorite target on back roads in Fla.

    Hurst
     
  11. Skate-Board

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    The way threads go and all the posts in here I'm surprised it hasn't come down to, turn your CDL in including your car license, serve 10 years in prison and be deported to Canada then the thread closed down.
     
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