Securement Question

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    Canada is too nice, now we send them to Jersey, Boston, Washington DC or New York City
     
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    Next time secure them like this. A guy posted this on Facebook drove off into the woods and it looks like they didn't move an inch.
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    Interesting.

    Those look a bit larger than the ones I had. Mine went from nail board to nail board,.. maybe 6ft in width. But I could easily do them that way.

    Thank you.

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    That poor Pete.
     
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    As long as you have enough in WLL on the amount of chains and booms you used. You're good. For instance. I haul 8k lift capacity telhandlers. They weight about 30k. I have to use 4 binders and 4 1/2" chains because the same in 3/8's does not have enough WLL. It's all just math. If you can get away with one chain on each end using proper math. Who is there to tell you other wise. Only thing that matters is what mr. Blue slacks says.
     
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    I've hauled those telehandlers. I have 20' chains so 2 chains and 4 binders so technically I'm using 4 chains. The worst fuel mileage hauling those air catchers
     
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    Hurst, i would look at this, if I were you. You say that if anything broke or came loose only two machines would come loose, I would suggest that if something broke, you would have that entire side (contained by that chain) come loose, to some degree. You do have the chain binders, but the way they are hooked, if the chain to one side came loose, the angle of the chain binder would change, which lets the chain on the other side of the binder come loose. Make sense?

    The other thing that I would question, depending on how picky an inspector would like to be, is aren't you required to secure moving parts like buckets? Wouldn't that mean securing the platform part in this case? I haven't hauled a lot of those but I've never had one that pinned in place, which means that it should be tied down. To me that means a strap over the top of each individual lift, even if it's not tightened down enough to be considered a a proper tie down for the whole unit.
     
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    The usdot states all moving parts must be secured by mechanical restraint if the moving parts cannot be secured by the device itself. This is why crane booms don't have to be secured and just sit on a rest with with the ball clipped to keep it from moving during transport. The hydraulics keep them secured thus not needing to chain a crane boom down. Also an osha requirement for all power equipment that uses a passenger to operate must be manufactured with the necessary restrain points to safely transport it. One of the places where osha and dot overlap. People chain down excavator buckets and the like because the length from the boom cylinder to the bucket allows for much bouncing. Most people don't think about why they do it and just do it because that's how they were told to do it or because it just makes sense to them
     
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    Why Mr. Know it all. You actually sound like you know what you're talking about!!!! lol