Securement Question

Attached image is the section it's in. I paraphrased it, read through you'll see my paraphrasing is correct. The way I phrased it covers all machinery

 

I read it, I've read it before and I carry a copy of it in my clipboard. Even paraphrasing I can't see where you get "if the moving parts cannot be secured by the device itself" It clearly says "Lower and secure to the vehicle all accessory equipment (hydraulic shovels, booms, etc.)" another page says "Accessory equipment, such as hydraulic shovels, must be completely lowered and secured to the vehicle." I'm not paraphrasing those are copied and pasted right from the pages. We agree on securement its just a matter of semantics at this point.

 

"The usdot states all moving parts must be secured by mechanical restraint if the moving parts cannot be secured by the device itself."

That covers everything mentioned in all flatbed sections regarding vehicles and machinery. Screen shot supplied summarizes the whole thing pretty well. The operable word in that screen shot is vehicle. If you want to get down to exact wording this has two definitions, if you can attach the moveable accessory to the "vehicle" being towed(ie to itself) such as a crane like the example we've used repeatedly. no need to attach it to the trailer or "tow vehicle". If you can't it has to be secured to the trailer which would be the tow vehicle. It's all semantics but there's many things that are rule, that aren't mentioned flat out. This is one of them. same reason a boom on a telehandlers doesn't get chained down. Also due to the fact a telehandlers boom doesn't articulate. Which is also why the regs say "Restrain articulated vehicles to prevent articulation while in transit" brings me back to my original phrasing of this. According to the regs (maybe not every time in actuality) Articulating equipment can articulate in transit sit if not secured properly.

Alas I say "The usdot states all moving parts must be secured by mechanical restraint if the moving parts cannot be secured by the device itself." Because that's a blanket statement that illustrates clearly every possible scenario when moving any kind of equipment or machine with moving parts and uses a lot less words than 3 pages. If you use that rule and know how to do math to know what your WLL is for your binders and chains you'll never have a problem with an inspection.
Thats why theres lawyers. Consequently that's also why there are fleet managers to know what everything in the book means. Law and regulation is written but has more than 1 meaning often. I'll say no more of it. Taken a lot of screen up already. I think I've made my view point clear as you have made yours.

 

Going back to the OP's original question, I would probably made it work with "8" binder's and an extra one on the tail end, just to make it look good. But that's just me. Even though they look like easy tie down, I go the extra mile to make it look pretty so that I'm not question. I agree, 16 would of been over kill, that's why I figure half is just as good.

 

Sure we'll have to agree to disagree which is fair enough. There is not written rule I've ever read that says "all moving parts must be secured by mechanical restraint if the moving parts cannot be secured by the device itself" that covers it all in your opinion and I think it's makes some sense and on the side of the road the DOT isn't a big fan of paraphrasing unless their the one doing it. , however unless you can produce that to the cop with the ticket book it doesn't mean much, I'm not sure how they do it where your from but here they want a telehandler boom secured to the deck. A backhoes front bucket doesn't articulate either but you better have a chain on it. Articulation has nothing to do with securing things to the vehicle. Most of this I learned on the side of the road not from a book, maybe you did to but I'll stick to my way.

 

When don't you have to put the center lock in an articulating machine?

 

You can chain it to prevent articulation. Some how he was making the leap from articulation to securing booms and stuff, like the telehandler.

 

I got stopped in Washington and they said the steering lock had to be in regardless of how it was chained to stop articulation.

 

I would have fought that one if they had ticketed me or put me out of service. We have machines that don't have the lock bar at all.

 

They didn't give me a ticket but told me to fix it before I left which was no problem. I just thought it was bs and told the guy that but he wouldn't budge on the fact it had to be in.