Securing Freight

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  1. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    First you need to be a company driver and get experience. Find a small carrier that will lease you on before you buy a truck. There you can learn how to book loads and negotiate rates, and most importantly build relationships with brokers. So when you get you own authority, the brokers will already know you, and won't care that you have a new authority.
     
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  3. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    The question was not about brokers or new Authority or booking loads.

    The question was about growing a business and securing Freight.

    Please reread the original post.
     
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  4. OldeSkool

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    I think one of the easiest ways is with a flatbed and call a big lumber yard. I’ve contacted quite a few and only one told me they wouldn’t deal direct with an owner operator only with brokers. Most of them will even email you a packet with all their info so you can get them on your insurance etc.

    Now here’s the best part, but this is top secret. They don’t want to pay worth a hoot. They think since they eliminate the broker the owner operator will run for peanuts.
     
  5. ElmerFudpucker

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    I think hauling bagged mulch might pay more.
     
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  6. bad-luck

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    Using the term securing freight threw me off. Just so I understand, are you referring to getting direct customers, if you don't have a truck or have one truck and wanted to expand?
     
  7. Dino soar

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    Well the first part of my question was a general question because so many times on this forum people will buy a truck, and then they inevitably get told they don't know what they're doing because they did not secure Freight before they bought the truck.

    So I guess I was trying to press people on how that would actually be done, because that's generally a difficult feat as a new owner operator unless you have strong connections before you start.

    The second part of my question is that if you are an established owner operator, what does growth look like as far as securing freight and expanding?

    If you are in this business in my opinion, you're either going to run your own truck, or you're going to be someone that goes out and finds freight and has your own trucks or hires on trucks.

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's as simple as having an MC for a few years and saying hey I'll just get a bunch of owner operators and let them run the load boards and they'll stay with me forever and I make plenty of money and nobody will ever leave and it'll be perfect.

    Maybe somebody or some people may do that, but most people want to go somewhere that there is direct Freight. So if you are one guy with one truck how does one do this?

    For example, in Philadelphia to do any kind of Port work with your own authority and your own business, they won't even talk to you unless you have 10 to 15 available trucks at the snap of a finger.

    Not that I'm looking at doing any of that kind of work at all, but it's just an example. If you really want freight you need trucks.

    So if there's an established owner operator does he expand and buy one or two trucks and hire drivers and let them run the load boards until he finds direct freight? Does he try to hire on owner operators and let them run the load boards until he finds Direct freight?

    So I guess what I'm trying to do is just figure out what is that process if you have a truck and you want to expand to direct freight. You need the trucks to secure the freight, and you need the freight to put the trucks to work.

    I would say maybe it's better to lease on to somebody and run a small Fleet for them, but then I have to ask the question, how did THEY do that?
     
  8. Dino soar

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    I never really thought about it, but I wonder if it's easier to secure flatbed Freight or easier to secure van freight?
     
  9. Dino soar

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    I never thought about it, but I wonder is it easier to secure flatbed freight or van freight?
     
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  10. SmallPackage

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    Here’s what happened in my family’s case back in the early ‘70’s hauling cattle. Around ‘72 my grandfather and uncle had 3 trucks. They ran from here and George West area up to Sikeston Missouri and Townsend, Montana. Mostly their own bulls for use to breed at various ranches. By luck they happened to get a chance to run 3 loads from the King Ranch to a huge buyers feed lot out in west New Mexico. They were running with a very well known and established west Texas cattle hauler company. 6 of their trucks and they were running hard. 85 mph and stop. 85 and stop. Back then they had stopping points along US 90 or IH 10 at ranches were you can back up a truck to a pinned in cattle ramp right off the hwy and let them out to stretch there legs. Running that route took a day or two if done right by the critters. Grandpa and Uncle being breeders themselves took it easy and got there a day after the others. When they got there and unloaded the old guy running the lot and the buyer came up to them and wanted them to be there new and only truckers. They said you guys brought them in all alive and pointed to a pit about 100 yards away and said we are tired of pulling dead ones out of these trailers on delivery. There were a couple dozen laying in the pit from the 6 other trucks. Because of this my uncle was able to buy 3 more brand new 359’s in 1974 and serviced the King Ranch for 20 more years. This also gave him first call with a lot of other high roller ranches at the time.
     
  11. bad-luck

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    Usually an owner operator who wants to expand, asks the brokers who he is set up with if he gets more trucks, will the broker load them. If the broker is willing to do so, the owner operator will buy and or lease trucks on to him. Then once he as a few trucks, it will be easier to obtain direct freight. My friend has 15 trucks and that is pretty much how he did it.
     
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