Self loading used equipment

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by Charlie42, Dec 6, 2022.

  1. Charlie42

    Charlie42 Light Load Member

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    I’ve loaded enough sh**ty equipment onto other companies trailers sucessfully to be running a decent company of my own, so it’s a choice at this point. If it came down to groceries or a rust bucket that needed to be winched onto a flatbed, I’d be winching away!! I’ve just never had one actually break down on the ramp on me when working for other companies, but a lot of close calls. I had a broker mad that we wouldn’t take her cob webbed John Deere out of a mud slab, figure out the starter problem and load it on our trailer the other day. So it made wonder about guys who’ve been stuck halfway up.
     
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  3. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    I hauled some (5 or 6) smaller junk forklifts that started "fine" to load down in georgia, but only 2 started in ohio where it was snowing. One started with a jump, the others he just dragged off with a strap and his good forklift while i steered. Took longer to back in the dock than unload. He was fine with it, but knew he was buying junk and was surprised any started at all.
     
  4. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    I will load anything…I had some wild rides when I hauled for the salvage yard. I ran a d8 right off the back of the trailer… and I don’t have ramps back there.
    I have been on my side in a trackhoe that only had one track…. They don’t load very well that way lol. I have cut parts off to make loads fit, used some creativity to load 90000lb dozers that almost run and probably about any other stupid idea you can come up with pertaining to moving junk heavy equipment. But I never had to worry about the damage I did (within reason and I was paid by the hour). If only I had pictures…but I had a pos flip phone then
    I know that’s not quite what you are talking about but in your case I would check engine oil and watch gauges (assuming they work and roll with it. Engines are about the only thing you won’t get a second chance with. Transmission of all types will almost certainly be limped along with more oil. If you think something is going to go bad call the owner and wait for a response if possible. Take pictures before and after something goes wrong and use your head when something has a problem stop and think before proceeding.
    The last part might be a problem if you’re not mechanically inclined( not trying to be hard on anyone).
     
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  5. MacLean

    MacLean Road Train Member

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    I’ve loaded tons of stuff from the port here in Eastern Canada and I’ve never been allowed to touch it. Very strict union there.
     
  6. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    Come down to the US east coast. You won’t get loaded or unloaded unless you touch it.
     
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  7. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    All the years and all the junk I’ve haul I’ve only had two machines actually breakdown on the trailer. One blew a hydraulic line which was a fairly easy fix. But it sure made a mess. The other was an old track hoe that walked out of a loose track. Oddly enough they were both loaded by the guy selling them. I tried to tell him he should tighten that track up. So that turned into a two hour ordeal.

    If the machine breaks down that is their problem. You can try to help or you can sit in the truck waiting on a mobile mechanic. That’s in no way the drivers responsibility.

    If you roll a machine trying to load it, that is your responsibility. If you tear up a tire trying to load it, that is your responsibility.


    See a pattern? If it something you can control it’s on you. Machines break and break they will. That is not your fault.
     
  8. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Do they take responsibility for trailer damage? That's my biggest concern hauling for others.
     
  9. Charlie42

    Charlie42 Light Load Member

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    Ya, that’s a big part of my concern also with old, heavy equipment. About 10 years ago, I hauled a tow along rotatiller onto a step deck with 10’ ramps. I called the boss and said “are you sure we want to take this thing? The center hook keeps free falling and these blades seem like they will tear up the deck”. He said “hell yes, get it on there and keep moving”. I tossed down a couple of moving blankets to put under and it took about 3 hours to slip and slide up the ramp and onto the trailer, snagging every groove on the way. When we got to drop off, reverse shut down on the tractor and couldn’t move the unit backwards. Boss said to try everything. Trying winching, try everything. Those blades just dug into everything. Spent 24 hours there battling that pile of ####. With the next pickups screaming at me and zero way to move backwards, I finally threw in the towel and called a local tow company. Great guy came over and we strapped each and hauled them off one by one. Caused $10,000 damage to the trailer and ramp (if all were to be repaired properly), rotatiller blades were ruined and tractor was shot. Company owner ended up in a lawsuit not only for the equipment, but also for the “loss of future business” from the recipient. His insurance settled the lawsuit and repaired his trailer…and his insurance went up by $20,000 the next year even with his mileage dropping way down. So, when he had a meeting to let everyone know we’d all be taking a bit of a financial hit due to “changes in the hauling climate”, I I got a truck and trailer and haven’t loaded old equipment since. Way I see it, if you have to to survive, of course..but if you do without, why take responsibility for someone else’s mechanical junk? One bad failure and lawsuits and insurance jacks up. I prefer worry about my own trucks, trailers, straps, chains and binders…plenty there to keep me more than busy. I was laughing out loud reading the comment above about moving stuff for a junk yard. I can’t even imagine the creativity that goes into that and can’t believe never got jammed up into a position that wasn’t doable to get out of. To each our own I guess:)
     
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  10. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    My company is the opposite.. We have a nobody loads #### on the trailer other than the driver, policy... The driver also takes 500 pictures of any potential problems or current problems, along with videos explaining what were looking at. All oil and fluids are checked before cranking with video to go with it. Jump pack on board in case of dead batteries... Cover your ###... Is rule number 1 in trucking...
     
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  11. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    I’m not beating you up, but that sounds like a case of wrong equipment and inexperienced driver. I will commend you somewhat. Hauling equipment you need to be knowledgeable enough to know when you can’t do something. But honestly 9 times out of 10 that old junk pays a higher rate than new equipment out of a port or manufacture.

    I guess it pays better because of guys like you. So I reckon I should say thanks.
     
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