Sent Home From Jb Dec 6th 2007

If I was a employer, I would not hire anyone over the phone. Would you?

To many drivers it seems think that pre -qualifying or being offered a ticket to come to orientation means they are hired or will be hired.
IT DOES NOT.

If you go to a employer in your city and apply for a job and they call you back for a interview do you expect them to hire you, no matter what?

I have gone to 2 interviews and not gotten hired. Should I go postal on them for it? Of course not.

If you choose to go far from home to interview for a job, then you need to be prepared for maybe not being what they wanted in person for what ever reason or none at all and being shown to the gate.

 

Again, BigBlue calls it straight and true. It's actually unethical to offer someone a driving job over the phone before that driver is checked out. But a lot of guys will go to orientation believing it's all up to a recruiter, and if a recruiter says "okay", then that's the final word. Dream on. The recruiter is just the first gatekeeper. He's a small one, too. The other, bigger, gatekeepers must say said driver is fine before he is hired on. Two big gatekeepers are safety and the health insurance guys. If your driving record is fine, you'll probably be given the green light by safety to proceed to the next gatekeeper, the health insurance department. If you are healthy and, at least at some companies all of a sudden, can tote a rather large weight around, you'll be good to go. Both of these gatekeepers need you onsite. It's hard to give the 75-pound toting test over the phone. And if you have any skeletons in your driving-record closet, safety will need you to explain those in person.

This is true, but no matter. I think you guys who get lied to by recruiters are naive, but so what? Those guys who built their houses in San Diego and in New Orleans were naive, too. Use your strength in numbers to get certain benefits that you may be due. I think lying recruiters should be held accountable for sure. Let the courts decide what recourse is warranted.

 

I agree but then disagree with why they send drivers home.... why can't you hire somebody over the phone? whats wrong with that?

I agree with the ideal of letting somebody go becuase they was not exactly what you are looking for the company such as....
1.Sloppy personal appearance...
2.Seems to have an attitude...
3.Does not seem to care to learn in orientation...
ext.......

But the reasons they send drivers home such as
1. Driving record...
2. Dac record
3. A negative past employer reference..
Ext... is JUST WRONG

This information all should be checked before telling somebody to attend orentation....

I know Celadon, A.transport, CrossRoads and a few other companies (that I know of) all check your history out before allowing you to attend orientation... So, when you arrive to orientation you "ARE HIRED" unless you fail the road test, drug test or dot physical....

Now I have no problem with letting people go for other reasons as listed above...

 

Jo, no matter what anyone tells you, you are not hired until you are officially offered a job at orientation. When you are in an actual class, finish that class, and are given the keys to a truck, you then can call yourself an employee. Before the keys are handed to you, you are just a candidate and nothing more. This is the way it is at any and all companies. After all, one who is promised he actually has a job before he goes to orientation could fail the road test, the drug test, the toting test, or the health exam before the keys are handed to him.

Nobody is hired at any company until the gatekeepers say he is hired. That is the way it is.

 

Mike was hired over the phone for his last job - with the conditions of a driving test and a clean drug test. It's not the norm, though, definitely.

 

All a persons information is in the application they send in.......background checks are to affirm the applicant is not lying......

companies must get federal money for having a body in their chairs......

 

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Yes, the turnover racket. I'm getting slow here. I should have guessed it had something to do with the government sugar-titty the companies suckle.

 

My company did all the checks before I went to orientation and again while in orientation because all of those things can change between the time you apply and go to orientation.

A person I know who hires drivers told me that he sometimes found out disqualifying info while the driver was in orientation and even after hire that was not there on the original check because it was not reported yet.

But there is a time limit that the process must be completed in or you have to start over again.

The key is to be prepared for anything before you go to orientation and not assume anything. Mistakes are made, especially at large outfits with numpty employees who could care less if you had to sit on a bus for 3 days to get there. Thats why I don't work for outfits far from home anymore. If I should get shown the gate for whatever reason, then it does not become a major crisis

 

The smaller companies are better to work for anyway. Those outfits have a lot less turnover, and they treat you better.

However, it's not all a bed of roses. Those outfits may not have the same health benefits a big outfit will have. Some may not have any benefits at all. You'll have to pay for your health insurance on your own. Ditto for your 401-K.