series 60 bad starter?

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  1. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    You may have destroyed the starter, I doubt it. I’ve smoked mine a few times. 20 yrs old. Still works great. 10 gallons of Delvac at Walmart’s $130. Your not the first to find out about using Lucas in winter time. I was in the same boat 13 mos ago. Coldest day of the year. It took 2 vehicles, and a generator for block heater and ether to get it started. Neighbor was in same boat also with his Detroit. Took Me 6 hrs to get it started. His never did start. We got a good laugh out of it later. All because of Lucas. His engine finally blew last month. I’ve got to start mine before 5 am, tomorrow. No more Lucas, fresh inframe. Temps dropping quick.Been sitting for 2 mos. only started it once about a month ago. It’s got 13 amps showing. Wish me Luck, Lol. Not leaving till noon. I’ve got 7 hrs. if I need it. I’m guessing it’ll start right up as usual. Cut back on the Lucas, too much causes rockers to get all sludged up.
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    Also, push clutch in while cranking, ( not to the floor ) it’s supposed to help engine spin easier.
     
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  4. stonefly4

    stonefly4 Light Load Member

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    Good luck, Rideandrepair.

    I guess you're right. It must be the Lucas. This is the first winter that the truck has been sitting with Lucas in the crankcase. I guess I'm finding out.
     
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  5. Joyce's Volvo

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    Brushes that contact thr armature could be well worn but, sounds as if some of the field is not making contact. The starter will 'motor' fast without a load but ,when it gets the load it doesn't have enough magnetic polarization to pull it. Plug up the block heater if so equipped , use a torpedo heater or similar and heat up the oil in the pan, this makes it easier on every thing. Hope this helps!
     
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  6. stonefly4

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    Thanks, Volvo. I'm gonna get the Lucas out of the crankcase first thing. I'll pull the starter and see if I can find anything wrong with it.

    The engine doesn't have a block heater, but I'll see what I can find at Harbor Freight.
     
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  7. Rideandrepair

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    Block heater is easy and simple to install. It’s basically just an electric hot water heater element. Stubby short type. Hardest part is draining coolant. I wouldn’t bother starter, unless it still won’t crank. You could probably rent a torpedo heater for 2 hrs. Or just change oil. Either way I bet it’ll start right up without ether. Mine did this morning still 27 degrees here.
     
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  8. lester

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    Why not just put a heater on the oil pan. They make good stick on ones that work good. Try pouring Lucas out of the bottle when its 10 degrees outside.. it won't.
     
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  9. Rideandrepair

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    Got that right, Lol. Must be 130 weight or better. I never saw stick on heaters. Probably work better than the standard coolant block heaters. Heating the oil instead. I like that idea better.
     
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  10. lester

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    I've used something like this on the oil pan of one our John deeres that didn't have a block heater. .made the oil nice and warm. When you started cranking you could tell as soon as that warm oil hit the moving parts to started to spin faster
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  11. Joyce's Volvo

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    Rideandrepair has a good ideal , don't pull the starter just yet. Do a little more warming before you go that route , the starter is a pain to remove. Getter good and toasty , then try cranking it over . Your heavy oil will still be in the oil pump if you change it, the PRV will dump any excess pressure . But , I think warming up will be the best .
     
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