Service brakes won't dump pressure?

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  1. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    The blue line to the trailer is just a signal line to control the trailer relay valve(s). That line should exhaust through the foot valve or hand valve depending on what you're using. Any ice or blockage in that line/valve exhaust port is going to lock air in the blue line and keep the trailer brakes on.

    The hand valve shouldn't be dumping directly to exhaust though. Quite possible that valve has failed. May even be a possible cause of your previous trailer brake issue.
     
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  3. PermanentTourist

    PermanentTourist Heavy Load Member

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    The weird thing is, both the truck and the trailer brakes were exhibiting this problem, even with both trailer lines disconnected. But if trailer red line was connected and released, it went away. Weird.

    Anyway, gonna look up some diagrams of trolley valve air lines, so I can figure out if it failed or is just connected improperly from when they changed the manifold...

    For now, does DOT fail inspection if the trolley valve doesn't work? Or can I keep running for a bit?
     
  4. STexan

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    First thing you need to do when you get home is repair or upgrade your air dryer. In the meantime, keep draining those tanks daily.
     
  5. PermanentTourist

    PermanentTourist Heavy Load Member

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    I drained the hell out of them this morning, and then tonight before I started running. Now it's doing it again.
     
  6. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    You will see a short air vent line leading out of air valve next to drive axles that can ice closed and if you move it around the ice may come out?
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    You know I would bring it to any dealer to have it looked at.

    For some reason this may be a case that the replacement part is not an exact replacement part, I had a problem like this with a ws and air suspension manifold, the original had the ports on way and the replacement had to two additional ports, the mechanic blocked the new ports and the suspension didn't respond to the pilot air. We finally took it to the dealer and it was fixed in an hour with an explanation of the real problem.
     
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  8. STexan

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    If moisture is the problem, the moisture is in the lines and valves, still. Also drain the trailer tanks. You can use various “air system anti-moisture” products but follow directions carefully. Otherwise wait until it finally warms up above freezing for several hours then spend some time cycling the service brakes to help push the moisture through the lines and out.
     
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  9. PermanentTourist

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    I'm at the TA shop in Amarillo now changing the dryer cartridge, and the mechanic is saying it's most likely a traction control issue. Now I'm thinking again that the mechanics back in LA who changed my air manifold thing plugged something in wrong - ever since then I've been having all these air brake problems, and the trolley valve doesn't work anymore.

    I wish I could find somewhere a nice diagram of all the Cascadia air lines so I could follow them and make sure everything goes where it's supposed to.
     
  10. PermanentTourist

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    I should look into that. I have the old manifold, I should at least compare it to the new one and make sure all the ports are the same
     
  11. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    The Traction Control system valves are very sensitive to moisture and especially ice.
     
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