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Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by 6wheeler, Nov 24, 2011.

  1. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Thats great grind it to them when you can...
     
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  3. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I repositionewd myself out of "cheap freight" Heaven, texas.
    I have now sat all day and the same ones have followed me here to
    lower rates. When will you learn that the world isn't going to end if you let
    one of these cheap loads pass you by? Have you ever thought if I sweat the brokers out the rate may go up??
    I HOPE ALL YOU CECKSUCKERS THAT HAUL THIS CHEAP STUFF TRUCK'S BREAKDOWN AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX THEM!!!!!
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Why even go to TX then? If you got the rate that lets you bounce out just leave. Sitting there and thinking that because your, or mine, or anyone else's refusal to touch anything for less than $x.xx a mile is going to change anything is crazy, not going to happen, ever.
     
  5. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    Has anyone ever shipped something and lets say it ended up damaged by the time it got there? Who pays for that? damaged in transit. I know the broker has to have some level of insurance in order to have a broker license.
     
  6. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    The carrier is responsible
     
  7. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I got my money coming down just bored so I thought I;d rant a little.
    I moved out of tx. I'm in la now. They followed me here too.
    I think I got me something that meets my dollar needs going to Al.
     
  8. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    At present, no insurance is required. But after what happened with CHR more and more shippers are asking for contingent cargo and liability insurance from broker.

    The brokerage business is slowly changing and we will start seeing more larger companies using TRUE 3PL companies. Schneider and CHR are going to get bigger. LS tried buying a couple companies to do 3PL right but that has been a bust. TQL is growing but doesn't have the chops at this stage to pull it off.

    It is getting interesting in our little world.
     
  9. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    What happened with CHR? I know they so of the branches were iffy on canal, they had to eat a few claims cause something was funny on the circumstances. TQL plays to many games trying to conceal loads and true broker of them. I have caught on to their game and their rates suck mostly.
    With 3PLyou have more hands in the money but some of the big ones get their loads from 3PL. I wish some of the hands would get out of my money.
     
  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    CHR got labeled as a carrier in a lawsuit and had a jury judgement of over $20 million. Plaintiff was able to show that the carrier was working for CHR and not just brokered the load. It was years ago that I read what was being claimed but if I remember correct the CHR employee was acting like a dispatcher rather than a broker. Plus some language in contract that didn't define the relationship properly.

    A TRUE 3PL will be working as a contract shipping department. So the company has no employees that do the coordinating of shipments. Best example I can think of is Schneider and DOW chemical. When DOW has an order, Schneider employees and systems coordinate what location it is shipped from, create BOL's, find the carrier, etc. They are even responsible for managing in inventory. The only DOW employees that ever get involved with a load are the people at the facility that load you and print the bills.
     
  11. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    A true 3PL does not pay the carrier,the shipper does. That's why many 3PL's carry brokerage authority also.
     
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