Shipper/receiver telling you to turn off your truck to get loaded

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by DAX_, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    8,396
    9,054
    Dec 17, 2010
    0
    Days? Try weeks and months. If that back piece is damaged or stripped that unit has to be removed. This means jackhammers and digging out the hole. Then it takes a good while to cure. The only case I remember that door was down for almost 6 months. The door was used some, but for things like UPS and FEDEX things.
     
    Lepton1 and FlaSwampRat Thank this.
  2. LondRanger

    LondRanger Heavy Load Member

    969
    1,594
    Jun 3, 2018
    0
    Shipper told me yesterday California doesn’t allow idling, i had to correct them by telling them California exempts trucks with clean idle certification from the 5 minute rule, after seeing the error of their ways they made up a new rule.

    Our yard and we dont want you to idle. I gladly told them “its understandable, but dont be ignorant on the laws when you are using them as evidence “
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2019
  3. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

    12,639
    25,261
    Nov 23, 2012
    Yukon, OK
    0
    @DAX_ I bet you didn't realize you would open the whole can of worms...
     
    buddyd157 and FlaSwampRat Thank this.
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    8,396
    9,054
    Dec 17, 2010
    0
    I don't think I have ever had an issue with idling at a dockside. I have had noisy reefers to set a dock manager off a few times. Most of the time as a part of the process you can see signs and/or be briefed by the traffic managers on what to do.
     
    D.Tibbitt, Lepton1 and FlaSwampRat Thank this.
  5. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

    2,668
    3,346
    Jun 11, 2011
    st malo mb canada
    0
    At the scale in golden bc there is a trailer oos because driver either tried pulling someone or left with dock restraint still hooked .. it pulled the whole frame that holds the doors away from the box at the bottom ..
     
  6. LondRanger

    LondRanger Heavy Load Member

    969
    1,594
    Jun 3, 2018
    0
    I have at Coca Cola, and a few other places. Amazon being the dumbest there is, after dropping a few loads to their locations, they get dumber and dumber. Their guards like to make rules up as well.
     
  7. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

    2,300
    4,105
    Aug 10, 2013
    Lords Valley, PA
    0
    This is why I hauled cars for most of my career. No docks, no forklifts to babysit. Park, go find your cars and load it all yourself, at your own pace.

    The hardest part was loading in a union yard as a owner operator, often I was not allowed to pull my own cars so waiting on their staff to bring them to me sucked, but at least I didn't have to walk the yard.

    The best part was the walking for exercise, many days I could log 5 to 6 miles walking. Kept me healthy and feeling great, it is the thing I miss most about not driving anymore.

    Sure, it sucked in the rain or snow, was hot in the summer and cold in the winter but that was minor compared to waiting hours, sometimes days, for other people to do their jobs.

    Now for idling at docks, as a current compliance consultant that does both DOT and OSHA, it is part of a proper "control of hazardous energy" program.

    While trucking generally is not regulated by OSHA, we are subject to their jurisdiction while immediately adjacent to fixed structures, on construction sites or otherwise not on a public highway. At other times our workplace safety is governed by the Federal Highway Administration or the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration.

    The shipper or receiver has a duty to make sure that truck can not roll or otherwise move unexpectedly. Many have determined this to require more than wheel chocks, signal lights on the dock or a locking device. The most secure way of doing this is to remove the driver from the truck or remove their ability to start and move it.

    Another reason some docks do this is to comply with idle regulations or zoning restrictions imposed upon them by their local municipality. Example, here in Pennsylvania a facility can be fined if they permit a diesel powered truck to idle while loading or unloading, unless idling is required to run a PTO ot pump.
     
    Lepton1, LondRanger, D.Tibbitt and 2 others Thank this.
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    31,933
    109,465
    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    0
    I notice when my seat’s been moved. :eek:
     
  9. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

    7,989
    15,790
    May 25, 2017
    New England area
    0
    :biggrin_2559:...yeah, one of the few pitfalls of slip seating for us LTL guys....

    i had a slip seat driver, take out my "tree" air freshener and hang it on the back support bar for the air lines.....

    maybe he wanted to freshen the air outside..>?????
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    31,933
    109,465
    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    0
    I’ve seen linehaul drivers do some stupid ####, but that would take the cake.

    Maybe it would impede his fart enjoyment. :laughing-guffaw:
     
    Lepton1, FlaSwampRat and MartinFromBC Thank this.
  • Draft saved Draft deleted