I do know how much it pays and how much it cost to do the job and still make a profit. I also know if I can do the job right or not. I have hauled loads that were under 100 miles because they were more profitable then longer loads. The fact of the matter is that I still get paid by the mileage whether it is from a shipper or a broker. I do clear 6 figures and have done so for years because I have put my time in and made a name for myself that is respected. Do I have to run cross country to do so no but I like to. I enjoy the long hauls and get paid to do what I enjoy. For me a broker is just an added cost in the equation that I don't need.
Shippers don't need brokers?
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Bogatyr, Nov 4, 2013.
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Shippers use brokers because carriers, small ones included, can't cover all the loads and in most cases won't even try to. For instance...
Some carriers don't run east coast but the shipper has loads that go there so a broker will reach out to several carriers and find one that will move the loads. (just one example) Rather than have a carrier base of 200 carriers the shipper uses a broker with a big carrier base.
Some shippers have loads that don't go to the same place all the time and carriers don't like to adjust lanes because they have a specific pattern that is profitable for them and they don't move off that. Brokers will find carriers that will move one load at a time for them and keep the customer's freight moving.
Small carriers and Owner Operators can't move all the loads most shippers have. They don't have enough equipment and they are usually more selective than even the big carriers about where they run. A small carrier might have a great relationship with a shipper but they still can't service all of their needs.
I think any Owner Operator should spend a day in a broker's office and even sit in the chair and take and make some calls from customers and drivers. It's probably not what you think it is.BigBadBill Thanks this. -
Just scanning this one over please let me know if I am in the general area
If you hate dealing with brokers so much why do you not just approach the shippers you want to deal with and show them what great service you are going to be able to offer them.
Not sure why brokers are such a bad thing they are a customer who pays you, what you agree to move freight. It really should not matter if they are getting a million dollars and only pay you $1.00 to move a load that is the rate you agreed to.BigBadBill, rollin coal and G3Truks Thank this. -
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If the trucks have their own authority well guess what? The co-op is a broker unless all moneys are payable to the truck without anyone else hands on the money. Couldn't be made to the co-op. At the very least it would be a 3PL. Kind of defeats the purpose. And who decides which truck gets which load? Who sets the rates? If each truck is set up with a shipper then what would keep one truck from undercutting the co-op rate? The co-op would have to have a contract with the truck and shipper. That makes it a 3PL or broker.
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Ok, I've spent several hours on this thread, cleaning it up so that we don't loose the good information here.
If you had a post deleted, and you don't know why it was, then you probably quoted another post that deserved to be deleted.
If you insulted another member in this thread, shame on you. And next time, I won't be as nice as I'm being here.
The baiting will stop. The name calling will stop, or I will show you the door.d o g Thanks this. -
My Grandfather always told me to never bite the hand that feeds you, unless you are certain you have plenty to eat. Whether the hand belongs to Joe Blow Brokerage or Sears and Roebuck makes little difference to me. I haul products for specific rates, from whom that rate comes is of little concern as I do due diligence in assuring that I will be paid in full on time with a rate that is satisfactory to me. Period. Business is business, remove the emotion, if you are not getting paid what you are truly worth there is only one culprit.............
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Amazing how bent out of shape some guys get. Why unnecessarily stress over what somebody else makes on a load? Who needs that? Get your rate and move on. Or go get a fax line and tell us how all how easy it is to make 30-50% or better off a brokerage, with no expenses.
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I don't know why brokers get bent out of shape over the mere suggestion that freight can move fine without them.
The argument isn't that brokering is cheap and easy. The argument is that it's expensive and difficult (for the broker, the shipper, and the carrier).... and often unnecessary.
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