Short -Haul ELD Compliance Questions

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by haulinasphalt, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

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    I'm a short-haul driver operating out of Florida. I leave and return to the same location daily and spend no more than maybe 4 hours in a rig per day, when operating. It is VERY rare that I travel outside of my 100 mile threshold or encounter a scale in my travels. According to my somewhat extensive research, it appears that I may be exempt from installing an ELD in my rig at this time.

    So, here are my questions:

    1. My delivery schedule varies, sometimes not once running my rig all month, or sometimes running my rig more than 8 days in a 30 day period, again, under the conditions listed above. Do I still need an ELD, even though I'm using a time card to track my hours?

    2. In light of the new laws being enforced, I have traded in my daily logs for JJ Keller's Driver's Time Records, as paper daily logs are now only permitted when your ELD fails. The driver's time records seem rather bare-boned, compared to my usual paper logs, ONLY recording date and hours on/off duty. Are these logs really enough to satisfy DOT?

    3. If all of the above mentioned still qualifies me for a time card exemption, will I still be exempt after the full compliance date of December 16, 2019?

    4. For safety sake, if I still wanted to invest in an ELD, could anyone recommend an inexpensive ELD, catered to the requirements of a short-haul driver? As the saying goes, better safe than sorry.

    Any help on the above is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Dieselboss

    Dieselboss Technology Contributor

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  3. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

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    Many thanks for your help, Dieselboss. I can sleep a little better at night, knowing I am armed with the knowledge necessary to keep myself out of the legal grasp of the big, bad DOT man. I love your answer for #3 by the way. I guess it was kind of a stupid question to ask, especially so early on in the ELD law game, but nonetheless, still made for a good chuckle. Thanks again, amigo!
     
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  4. Streetroddreams

    Streetroddreams Medium Load Member

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    Anything designed for truck driving is rarely inexpensive.
     
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  5. AOBRD_Al

    AOBRD_Al Bobtail Member

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    as long as you dont travel more than 150 miles 8 times in a rolling 30 day period. you are still considered short haul and therefore exempt.
     
  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Takes a bit more than the 100 (not 150) air mile exemption.
    1. 100 mile miles radius (can drive 600 miles in the radius, but cannot go outside it for even a mile to get the exemption.
    2. start and stop at the same location
    3. Work no more than 12 hours.
     
  7. hoptrot

    hoptrot Light Load Member

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    I had a Florida State trooper tell me i needed logs if i crossed state lines. Even though i am in the above requirements. If you cross state lines, do you need to keep logs?
     
  8. nax

    nax Road Train Member

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    Just read your little green book. You know, the FMCSA safety/reg book. It's all in there.
     
  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Next time an leo states something, make him show you the actual law. I'll show it to you..

    eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations
    (e) Short-haul operations—(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.8 and 395.11 if:

    (i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;

    (ii)(A) The driver, except a driver-salesperson or a driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;

    (B) The driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 14 consecutive hours;

    (iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver, except the driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

    (B) A driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 14 hours on duty;

    (C) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
     
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