Should I let sleeping dogs lie?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Shed527, May 15, 2013.

  1. inandoutoftrouble

    inandoutoftrouble Road Train Member

    Sep 20, 2012
    Wichita KS
    I am hoping that forced teaming does NOT ever become the new wave of the future, otherwise, there could be sheer hell to pay.
  2. tracyq144

    tracyq144 Heavy Load Member

    Feb 15, 2009
    As to the question in the subject box: Yes, if a dog is sleeping, it is probably tired, and should be allowed to rest until no longer tired. It will wake up on it's own volition.
  3. Lone Ranger 13

    Lone Ranger 13 Road Train Member

    Sep 27, 2012
    Asheville, NC
    I like dogs and will usually let them sleep. If only they would return the favor. Ever wake up with a Labrador standing on your chest staring u in the face wagging his tail. Then he starts licking your face and your arms are under the blanket. And he seems to find your struggling to get free to be entertaining.
    Anyway, if the company wanted u to change your logs I assume they wouldn't have e-logs. So repower load or reschedule delivery appointment. Most loads aren't really hot. Just ask someone in receiving to stay 15 minutes late to receive that critical load. All of a sudden tomorrow or next week will be fine. I've seen it happen. On the other hand I have had receivers load/unload me right at closing time to help me. One even stayed 45 min late on a friday to offload me.
  4. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

    Nov 1, 2010
    Burnsville, MN
    How do you drive nearly 12 hours, every day for 7 days straight - and stay legal?

    No pre/post trips, fueling, meal or rest breaks?
    Just drive a straight 11 hours, stop for 10, then drive another 11 at that very minute?

    I guess that is why new rules are needed.
    To keep this type of unsafe driving at bay.
  5. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

    Jul 15, 2006
    El Chuco, Tejas
    I really take exception to this. No detention pay if you log off duty? So they expect you to log on duty for say, 5 hours at a shipper/reciever to get your detention pay? If so, don't they see that as shooting themselves in the foot? That takes 5 hours out of your ability to drive and work for them! I would think the potential lost productivity outweighs the cost of the detention pay.
  6. hagarcobra

    hagarcobra Light Load Member

    May 24, 2013
  7. speedracer 1963

    speedracer 1963 Medium Load Member

    Jan 12, 2008
    if its a big company ? you can log onto the company website then click on the safety mgrs. icon I would then quote exactly what your co driver told you to do Then wait for a reply. If the company tries to write you up later on, you have dates and times on the email backing up your side of the situation.
  8. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

    Oct 1, 2007
    Duncannon, Pa
    It is about time management.

    Federal regs do not require a specific amount of time to log for pre trips or post trips. A pre trip can be flagged at the beginning of the day provided you note the amount of time used for that duty. EG; Pre trip 5 minutes under the location.

    Drop/hooks pretrip inspection can be accomplished within 15 minutes. Driving 11 hours and then take a 10 hour break can actually yield more than 11 hours driving within a 24 hour period (if you understand how the rules work). Take a 34 hour reset once you have burned through your 70 hours and then start with a fresh 70 hours. It is possible to LEGALLY drive in excess of 70 hours in an 8 day period.

    The UNSAFE part has to do with the feds rules. Limiting a driver to driving 11 hours within a 14 hour time frame gives very little flexibility to the driver to stop for a meal, take a nap during rush hour traffic, or deal with traffic accidents, road construction and detours while attempting to complete his route within the "14 hour time limit."

    The old HOS rules were much more flexible. Allowed to drive 10 hours then take an 8 hour break before driving again. Split sleeper berth could be used to take a nap and not be penalized.

    Now the feds want to restrict us even further by mandating a 30 minute break within the first 8 hours of a drivers shift (thus reducing the 14 hour limit to 13.5). Then there is the new reg about limiting the use of a 34 hour reset 1 once per week, mandating 2 periods of 1 to 5 am off duty to achieve that 34 hour reset.

    If a driver runs into a traffic jam and cant make it home until 2 am then he cant count that first day towards a "reset."

    This is shortsighted and does nothing to enhance safety. If you think otherwise then you are sorely misinformed.
  9. RockinChair

    RockinChair Heavy Load Member

    Feb 19, 2012
    South Texas
    Most supertruckers are...
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