I've had my first job in trucking for almost 3 months. Part time technically, but often 40-60 hrs a week over 3-4 days. It's for a small agricultural/cattle company near where I live. It's been quite the experience...some good, some bad (really bad) - but I'm no quitter so I've stuck with it to see how things go. They're good guys and have been very accommodating to me being a new guy with no experience. But some of their equipment has been proven to be unsafe and they like to bend the rules a bit. There are some things that we're exempt from (since our truck is a farm truck mainly doing non-commercial work). However, I'm not entirely comfortable with some of their practices and preferences on how things are done.
Pay has become an issue as well. Recently I've spent quite a few hours doing job-related activities that they have not paid me for. Overall they are unorganized at this point and to their credit have had some bad luck - it's costing me a lot of time that I do not get compensated for. I also only get paid for loaded miles, which is quite common..but only about 50% of my miles are loaded. I'm prepared to speak with them about that but am just going to leave it alone if I decide to go a different direction at this point.
Happy to go into further detail about things, but I'm looking for advice on whether to stay or go. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Should I stay or go?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by kds_5280, Dec 27, 2021.
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I have been there. When you aren’t getting paid for work then it is time to move on.
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I wouldn’t turn a wheel without pay,,,thats for volunteers. Move on.
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Go!! The minute your feet hit the pavement it's time to go work(my saying anyway). When I hire myself out I'm not there for volunteer work (unless that's what I'm doing). It doesn't sound like you're there for volunteering. If they aren't not paying you for the work you're performing. I would say see you later.
You're out here to learn & earn so no need to "short change" yourself. Do your research on companies that have what you are looking for. End the year on a good note & blow your horn loud to start a new one. God bless you on your journey. -
yeah, that company can be hitting hard times. but you still need to be paid for work performed too.
i'd start putting "feelers" out there and see what shakes the job tree.
if something looks good, treat the boss good enough to give him the obligatory 2 week notice.
since as you say, they had been very accommodating, and being your first job, that gave you that chance.JoeyJunk, Shackdaddy and kds_5280 Thank this. -
Thank you and I agree, when I'm doing anything related to my job activities I should be "on the clock" and getting paid for it. No pay for two 5.5 hour drives back after dropping off a load. No pay for two 8 hour drives to TX to pick up a load. Got paid for 1 hour of loading once when it took 2.5 hours. No pay for going to pull a broken-down tractor off of its load. No pay for running around town essentially running errands and swapping trucks and trailers. Gaining experience comes with a price but it's been a bit much in terms of hours spent for the pay I've received.
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Even as an OTR driver who gets paid by the mile, when you add up time that you’re driving ZIP Code to ZIP Code, out of the yard that takes two hours to get to the nearest interstate, those first 40 to 100 miles are on you, same thing on the return trip back to the yard, messing around with trailers, messing around with broken crap, the list goes on and on, I’m probably giving 20 to 30 hours of my time per week on average for free. In some cases probably more hours per week than what people work full-time. Some companies are better at designing systems to avoid paying you for this time and some are better at it. Most truckers just look the other way as long as they’re making 1000 to 1500 a week. But if they ever really stopped and got a calculator out and a notepad and kept detailed track, they would realize basically what they’re doing is just working two full-time jobs for a full-time paycheck of one job. Lol that’s really what trucking is if you want the honest truth.
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Not only would I quit I’d contact your state employment authorities and ask if this is even legal. Get as much documentation and proof as you can as well, you may be able to resign and quality for unemployment. It’s called resignation with good cause in Texas.
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I can see a small amount of unpaid work but they are asking you to do a lot of unpaid work.
I would mention it to them and if they still expect you to work for free, tell em Adios. -
I hear you there. I fully expect to have some extracurricular duties that are in my pay structure. Getting paid for 1 hour of loading regardless of how long it takes...so be it, I think a lot of companies do that. It's not an hourly position so I don't expect to be paid for every bit of time I spend working for them. The problem is that when I did get the calculator out to see what my "hourly rate" technically would have been on a given day or week, the rate was falling below minimum wage. Being a company driver certainly isn't the best paying job in the world, but it's absolutely not a minimum wage position - especially flatbed work. This problem could be alleviated if they are willing to improve my pay structure just a bit, but that still leaves my other concerns regarding safety etc.
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