Should yearly hair follicle testing be mandated as a condition of retaining CDL

Personally I'd rather have stoned people compared to drunk people regardless. Stoners are not aggressive, over confident, or loud...generally. Both can be slow in their reactions though, both can make weird decisions. But hey a sober straight person can do the same also.

Does anyone have a comment of say a personalised eye dilation and breathalyser device in a vehicle. Say you look into it and count to 10. It compares your pre recorded straight, clear, and sober eye dilation while reading your breath as you count to 10. If the two don't align or read 0 the vehicle doesn't start.

Of course it would only work on a regular registered driver of that particular vehicle. Perhaps the motor stops if you lift weight of the drivelers seat for more than 1 seconds after it starts, bit like a ride on mower.

Do you think that intrusive? Would it stop drug and drink drivers? It could be rolled out into every vehicle on the road and only take 10 seconds to get on the road.

 

A. If you cant think of how easily this can be bypassed by anyone competent, theres a problem

B.if its so secure that even an extremely competent person couldnt disable it, whats the false positive rate going to be? (Mouthwash is something that can cause this)

C. How is it implemented? Will a breathalyzer be required before transmission operates, or for even turning the truck on, see mouthwash objection, youre suggesting it be REQUIRED to prevent drunk people from driving, but if it locks out turning the truck on, then you have actually made a regulatory decision that killed people from freezing to death in winter and at least is going to give people heatstroke in the summer.

If there is no forced time interval for re-testing, i could start the truck on sunday, and just never turn it off till friday...

D. If you cant imagine how this CAN be abused and invades your actual privacy and sells data on you to the equipment companies that they will in turn profit a second time off of, your lack of imagination is the problem, an enterprising company absolutely CAN and WILL put a camera on there, "accidentally" leave it in always on mode, sending data off to a server somewhere and you will never know till momths or years AFTER the security breach at the company and 15 tech guys finally actually fully test the device. And thats "best case", companies want more profit, they do that. Abuse from law enforcement can be far worse with far worse consequences

E. Eye dilation would be worse, youre giving constant retinal scans up (literally biometric data, you bet your keister that insurance companies would REQUIRE that info and sell any data to medical companies, your personal medical insurance can and will go up. what if you just injured yourself in the middle of nowhere, do you just have to tough it out instead of at least getting to a place for medical care? More plausibly, on your pretrip you got a drop of coolant in one eye, does this now require a forced wait to turn on the truck? Or its extremely dry out, that messes with eyes, makes it "look" as if drunk.

 

Fair enough guess I'm dumb. The way I think is not always how to scam or cheat, and i don't see myself being f over by big brother.
Just chatting

 

Hair follicle goes back up to 90 days

 

I am neither a scammer or cheater myself, but im not a high trust individual either because humans are a very untrustworthy species.

I see the reasoning behind what you said, but the potential for abuse and the various pitfalls is just too high for me to think it reasonable.

 

For YEARS the trucking industry AKA us the drivers have allowed various government entities to dictate every waking moment that we are on the job. In some instances even divulge into our personal off time in order to make us compliant with archaic rules and regulations that actually have nothing to do with the job at hand. Of course we only have ourselves to blame. We, as an industry of unique independent individuals, cannot seem to put our "I'm right your wrong" mentality to the side for the greater good of everyone in the industry. The power that we would have to make our industry one to be proud of and more importantly more profitable for everyone concerned is enormous. But we don't exercise that power because we say, "I don't have time or I don't want to loose my job, or that's not my problem". That mentality is the VERY reason that we have expensive, suffocating, back breaking regulations that tell us, some of the most talented, safest professionals on the planet basically when we can wipe our butts. Hair testing, eye scans etc. are just another way for them to crack the whip and make everyone compliant with rules that THEY don't even understand the impact of on the industry. Or maybe they do and just don't give a ####.

 

Way too many false positives. Forget about it. There is enough frickin regulations going on now.

 

Neither one should be operating a CMV, period.

 

yup,

down here alcohol is related to 8000 deaths per year. Road toll hovers around 1500, or which I can't recall how many have alcohol involved. Haven't heard figures on pot, probably don't have them. Ice is the growing problem.