Sign the petition on the new elog mandate!

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by 379exhd, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    I reckon its a useless argument. I'll remember that next time I see ANY elog governed truck speeding through a construction zone, or a town for that matter. I'll admit I'm no better I run 5 over most everywhere I go...unless NE DOT is running more than 95...then by LAW they are required to be escorted by a bull hauler...
     
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  3. wore out

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    It is a useless argument, but I refuse to give up. I will fight to protect my way of life, to support my family. I know one ol wore out bull hauler won't make a difference in the end. I don't like the cattle handling practices now, how much more will they suffer on e-logs. How will the beef industry handle it. Who should pay for the facilities needed to make it right. The government is already broke and we have all bought meat and eggs at the store. Can we stand any more there? I refuse to treat a living breathing animal any worse than I have to.

    So I guess I am saying keep your quarter, and keep picking up cans cause you are gonna need it to eat. Thanks for keeping America clean. Keep er out the ditches and don't play with the witches. This the one Wore Out we be 10-10 on the side we gone. (lets off the throttle gets another gear black smoke rolls smiles life is good for a bull hauler beep beep}
     
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  4. TwinStickPeterbilt

    TwinStickPeterbilt Heavy Load Member

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    Well, I'm on elogs now. IT BLOWS.

    This one size fits all ########, is getting old. Guess what?? I GOT CHICKEN LIGHTS GUYS!!! 2 on the rookie sticks, 2 in the bumper, the vertical row on the breathers, clearance lights on the cab and sleeper, chicken lights down the side.

    E logs arnt the answer. Not letting ######### behind the wheel is.
     
  5. Bumpy

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    I have been on elogs and IMO yes..they do suck. I will not do so again until I have too and then-I just may decide to get out of this thing called Trucking. Why? Because I have put $$ away over the years..and I can.
     
  6. Dinomite

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    Elogs don't suck!! The laws suck!! So either get with the program, or do like the guy who saved up $$ and roll your candy tail to another industry where you can complain about the hand print time clock instead of the the paper punch time clock. Just remember. A Super trucker will survive!! A super trucker will survive. We don't sign petitions. We say GO AHEAD PILGRIM. MAKE MY DAY!!! oH AND YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
     
  7. droflex

    droflex Light Load Member

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    With the elog I still got the feeling that dispatch, at times, still wanted me to run more than the legal hours.

    At least with the qualcomm I felt like I had a way out of working beyond that.

    When that 11 or 14 hour mark was approaching it was a great feeling.

    When the dot instigated the 30 minute break I was against it at first and thought they were meddling with my life. How dare they?

    After a short time, I was actually glad that I could take that lunch time and not feel as rushed. It was a relief.

    Today, I feel that the regulations aren't such a bad thing. It keeps the companies in-line, to a certain extent.

    They can edit the logs as they see fit though. Change line 4 to line 2. I've seen it happen right in the middle of a driving shift.

    Those times when I have 2 hours left to drive but a while later it shows I have 3 hours or I have 5 hours left on my 70 but then it shows 10 hours left (in the middle of the day). Not cool.
     
  8. Stile

    Stile Heavy Load Member

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    Hogwash.

    Children that need their hands held because they can't manage their time are the ones that need to get out of this industry.

    Drivers have managed for decades without nanny state legislation. Instead of passing new laws, they should force out the drivers that can't abide by the ones on the books.
     
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  9. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    As you gain more experience you will likely disagree with that statement.

    How will you feel when you begin to realize the amount you have accomplished in your shift is barely enough to cover a meal at the truck stop for the day? Then you begin thinking, "gee, this happened this day, this day, this day, etc." and none of it was due to your lack of planning - you got customers who held you at a dock for a long time, you got in heavy traffic, behind an accident, whatever.

    How will you feel when it says you are to go to sleep now, but you feel wide awake and completely capable of getting to your destination? What do you do when home is an extra half hour away and there are no scales to go over or tolls to pay? You will be caught for your "illegal activity" and probably be chastised later for it. Same goes for when you decide "ok, I should make it to here, I will sleep at this or this truck stop/rest area, all is good" - when you get there, guess what, no parking... ohhh no, same thing, YOU ARE GOING INTO VIOLATION, DRIVER! "Shoulda' planned it better, how could you have screwed this up???"

    It can work against you too - what happens when you didn't sleep worth a darn on your 10 hours off and it is now time to begin your day? After a few hours you know you shouldn't be on the road because you are still tired. That clock is still counting. Better not have another day you didn't make any money because of something of your OWN doing.
     
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  10. droflex

    droflex Light Load Member

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    "...the ones that need to get out of this industry..."

    I am out of the industry for a bit. On-the-job injury.

    K. I understand the part of being babysat.

    I like to be in control myself.

    It's just that there where times that I would stop driving at about, say, 10 hours or 13 hours. I gotta' leave time to find parking 'ya know.

    Sometimes my DM would send a message asking why I quit driving when I had 1 hour left on my 11 or 14, or "if 'ya run-hard you can make it". What does "run-hard" even mean? I'm driving as fast as the truck will go. I'm pretty sure "run-hard" is their way of saying "break-the-law".

    At those times I would have failed the blood pressure part of a physical 'cause it was probably off-the-chart.

    Those are my hours and the company should keep their stinkin' paws off of 'em.

    If there where no restrictions on driving time, the company may ask something really, really stupid like "Why did you stop driving when you've only drivin' 22 hours?"

    I'm serious. They would do that.

    The whole HOS thing will be debated forever and the hours will probably change again. They seem to do it every few years.

    My whole thing is that, when a company goes into the system and changes your hours it just isn't right and when they do it, the person who's ### is on-the-line is mine.
     
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  11. droflex

    droflex Light Load Member

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    Everything you mentioned has happened countless times to me. I cook my own food tho and the shippers/receivers are a huge part of the problem. The smaller places, as we all know, have there #### together for the most part.

    It's the JIT system that's in place that causes it.

    The tight schedule that is put together because the planners are expecting a driver to drive 8, take a max 30 minute break, drive the rest of an 11, take a maximum 10 hour break and then do it again and again.

    That 14 hour window? That isn't even worked in to the equation.

    A driver can't get into a proper sleep-cycle.

    I'm not trying to argue. I'm just point some stuff out that I've observed.
     
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