Sleep study needed for Schneider will other companies need one too?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Seawolf403, May 24, 2019.

  1. Sleep Anea mostly a scam

    Sleep Anea mostly a scam Bobtail Member

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    I like how you just glazed over everything above like it doesn't exist lmfao. I think it's pretty obvious. Well again if someone thinks it's good for them that should be up to the driver since cpap is so hazardous.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    Well hate to say this but with the number of companies out there, focusing on those few who have been pushing this to limit their liabilities is rather stupid.

    The only one that lets the company walk all over them is the driver who is either really desperate or not willing to learn how to pick a good company.

    The driver faces every second they are behind the wheel things that jeopardize their cdl, just read some of the crap these drivers claim, minor incidents, running over things and causing accidents.

    If you don’t like a company that causes you to go through this, go somewhere else.

    it is that simple.

    By the way, you are creating this issue with plastics like in a humidifier tank, well as much as there is an issue that could be a problem if the tank is over heated, it doesn’t happen but what is a real problem is exposure of other things like someone loving in a 400 cubic foot space for 14 hours plus a day, with piss poor ventilation while sitting on a device that leaks into the container pollution from burning chemicals in both diesel and diesel exhaust fluids. I would not worry about the cpap machine as I would the truck itself.
     
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    The driver should decide if they're comfortable with using cpap or not simple as that. Leaving the company is time consuming costs both the driver and company resources. It's extremely wasteful to do what you're saying lol and is much more complicated than allowing the driver to decide.

    Leaving the company only to find other companies forcing cpap machines onto drivers isn't realistic. If you have the mentality of if someone doesn't like it then leave that isn't a very realistic approach and it's a very wasteful attitude. That's the problem you don't seem to realize how many people that impacts.
     
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    I didn't create the issue with plastics you're just fabricating whatever you want to fit your narrative of promoting cpap machines while simultaneously belittling drivers as if they're unimportant or at fault for lack of the freedom of choice which is absurd that's just reality here's a link to someone whos humidifier ran out of water then the cpap machine started melting plastic and directly pumping the smoke into their lungs causing CHEMICAL BURNS IN THEIR LUNGS FFS http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t74405/poisoned-by-water-chamber-plastic-fumes.html I didn't create anything. I'm just saying drivers should decide if they use the cpap machine or not you're the one deflecting and doing whatever to defend forced cpap while ignoring the obvious unnecessary hazardous conditions cpap machines create. By your logic everyone should smoke cigarettes too right what difference does it make? I think you're just trolling or make money off of cpap machines.

    That's right drivers don't need additional stresses and regulations placed on them that for majority isn't needed or wanted. The driver should decide simple as that.
     
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  6. ZVar

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    No it's not as simple as that. You could easily say a driver should decide how comfortable of a drive time to use every day.
    As for apnea they need to follow both their own rules and the laws to see if it's needed. If found to save lives then it needs to be added to the regulations.
    Problem with apnea is there is zero evidence that apnea has any effect on driving.
     
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  7. Trucker Carlton

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    That’s weird and never thought companies will require a sleep study but like I know you’ll get test if you have some health that may interfere with the operation but nothing about sleep study on a trucker or a new employee.
     
  8. Brandt

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    If someone is driving sleepy that could have affect on stuff. Drivers can record themselves sleeping and watch or listen to see if the stop breathing for 10 seconds and gasping for air. I remember hearing guys in the TV and movie room at truck stop. They would stop breathing and gasping for air. I did not know that was sleep apnea and everyone also just thought the guy was a loud snoring.

    Driver can just record themselves and see if the stop breathing 10 seconds or more. If you do that 5 or more times per hour then you have sleep apnea. 5 is not very much the scale they've se on high side is like 30+ time per hours. Some people stop breathing 50 or 60 or 90 times per hour even.
     
  9. Sleep Anea mostly a scam

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    Actually it is as simple as that. What's wrong with drivers deciding when they should drive or if they want to use cpap machines? Drivers were without logs for much longer than ELDs have been around. It's not like it's a radical idea that drivers should decide basic things like if they're too tired to drive or not. ELD's force drivers to drive when they're tired and shut down when they're awake and force drivers to wake up when they could be sleepy to drive. You could say no ones forcing a driver then you haven't been a company driver before.

    Driver managers hound drivers to wake up right at 10 hours on the dot and start moving that truck it's not realistic to think ELD's and not letting drivers decide is some type of a solution rather than a problem. Also ELD's expose drivers to abuse from law enforcement law enforcement hold ELD's over the drivers heads and abuse drivers over ELD's by threatening drivers with, "falsifying documents" etc it's just abuse not to mention what female drivers are exposed to by law enforcement. How would we know if ELD's and cpap machines are actually causing more accidents? Since the introduction of cpap machines and ELD's there's been a steady increase of accidents.

    I personally have experienced the headache of ELD compliance having to shut down right at 14 hours because some politician whom I can't verify was elected because the ballot system is a secret people that have never driven a truck in their lives decided to make ELDs law and maybe played around with a mandatory cpap machine statues because there was a few videos of someone with sever overbite unable to sleep or a couple accidents of drivers wrecking tuned to fit the pro ELD logs and cpap machine narratives.

    What would be wrong with letting drivers decide if they drive or need, "cpap machines" or not? Infringing on freedom is the problem here not the driver or a few cherry picked cases of safety.
     
  10. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Please put down the crack pipe and go take a random .
     
  11. Sleep Anea mostly a scam

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    I know right it's crazy how high of a standard truckers are held to.

    There’s 1 civilian fatality per year for every 625 truck drivers per year in the US. It’s a lot harder for a semi driver to control an 80,000 pound vehicle. Truckers can go days without pay live on the road no unions no benefits in general. Truckers are held to a higher standard and if an accident occurs usually the truckers faces jail time fines or both and loses their lively hood. Truckers are extremely heavily regulated with ELDs to cpap machines to constantly being pulled over for a variety of reason regulated down to even a single light bulb can land a trucker a ticket jail time etc.

    Here’s a video of a trucker that lost control of his semi going down hill. Instead of building tunnels to prevent truckers from climbing steep grades to descending extreme low grade mountains literally called, “look out mountain” yes that’s what they call it this poor truck driver was crucified and sentenced to 40 YEARS over something he had no hopes of controlling,



    There’s 1 civilian fatality per year for every 708 officers in the US. It’s a lot easier for police to control their weapons. Law enforcement generally have a 95%+ acquittal rate enjoy unions enjoy full benefits with wages up to even $100/hr. Full benefits, set for life. Law enforce on the other hand aren’t regulated pretty much at all.

    Here’s a video of police apparently breaking into the wrong pking house the occupants didn’t survive apparently no charges.



    Truckers are heavily regulated no benefits, low pay live away from their families are much safer in general than law enforcement but held to a higher standard and criticized more for being unsafe. The double standard is just laughably absurd.
     
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