Sleep study needed for Schneider will other companies need one too?

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I think people are looking for something to stop all the sleep apnea stuff when it was never looked at in the past. That why I tell people how they count sleep apnea Events.

Lawyers will look for anything to blame the drivers or trucking companies. Trucking companies will look for ways to protect themselves so will the doctors doing the medical exam

 

lol when aren't truckers responsible? Haven't you seen the previous posts? Not only are truckers held to a higher standard but they're forced onto machines many of them dont need or want that are potentially extremely hazardous. So the problems are truckers are held to a higher standard, physicians recommended things truckers don't need or want and force something on drivers that could be worse or even fabricated for false positive results. I get what you're saying though so if a driver wrecks while on cpap machine then the physicians should be held liable or the promoters of cpap machines right? I think that's a good point. If the product isn't working then liability should fall on the cpap physicians and or product itself.

 

How many times has a driver used the excuse they were using their cpap machine as a defense that got a driver out of fines or jail time lol.

 

OSA as a disease is far from a scam. I know several people most are NOT truckers that have it. One such friend is a now-retired Railroad Engineer. It is also important to remember currently the USDOT has withdrawn most of its OSA rules. SEE LINK. I am not going to write a long comment on this, but, someone I spoke to some time ago described a sleep lab near me that he described as a scam. I don't care how you are doing on either side of this argument, but for most people, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to fall into deep REM sleep with electrodes and other things stuck all over your body. I tried a while back and finally ripped that dang nose thing off and ended the study. Just because you can't sleep in a sleep lab does NOT mean you have OSA. One more thing. Only a qualified medical provider after a thorough examination reviewing your answers to certain questions can render a diagnosis of OSA. What is happening with this dang OSA thing is a whole lot of bad actors from CPAP machine makers/salesmen to medical examiners with incestuous relationships with people that own sleep labs have caused so many problems the DOT has had to back off most of their OSA rules.

This is the current bottom line in regard to OSA! IF you have it get this problem treated because OSA can cause other health problems NOT just make you dangerous behind the wheel. Just try to make sure you see a good qualified medical provider, not some crook scamming with a CPAP maker! I also don't think this is too much to ask!

 

Are you looking for some magic answer that will make the screening for it go away ? If someone has a cpap and does not use and gets in accident. They will probably look to see if they can claim driver was tired. If you think it's a scam then going to a different doctor will solve that problem. You could even sue the first doctor for fake sleep apnea test, if you have the time and money.

 

So you're saying that cpap and physicians prescribing cpap machines should be held liable if a driver wrecks while using a cpap machine if the driver claims they were tired. You mean that physicians should be individually investigated for profit tied to cpap machines if a driver wrecks. I don't disagree with that.

 

No, it's the drivers responsible to not drive tired. If a driver is prescribed a cpap and does not use it. Then the driver will be in trouble for not using it. If a driver has a cpap then part of the DOT physical is showing you past usage history.

If DOT doctor looks at driver and missed the standard signs of sleep apnea testing or just passed someone to help them or doesn't care. That doctor will probably have to answer and maybe liable if driver has accident. The doctor would not be responsible for the accident but he might lose his medical license or something. That's part of the reason for having certified medical DOT doctors. Because in the past some drivers were doctor shopping look for doctor that would pass them. That probably why today we have morw doctors wanting sleep apnea test for more drivers that have big neck or overweight.

 

How can the dot dr be held liable in any way for something that is not required?

 

If the driver is responsible for driving then the driver should be responsible for deciding if they do sleep study or use cpap machines.

See where what you're saying contradicts the point? If the device doesn't work then liability should be passed on to Physicians recommending cpap machines that doesn't work on a patient it can be called fraud false advertising etc.

I think maybe drivers should start by examining what drivers are wrecking with cpap machines and look at those physicians first maybe the driver could sue the physicans for the cpap machines in a class action lawsuit. That would probably be a gold mine for lawyers. Maybe the drivers could test the machines and see if the cpap machines are pumping out toxic fumes (plastic particles) and if they find evidence could sue the physicians for selling the machines. That's a good point.