Sleeper Berth Time in a Day Cab?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Animangus, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

    808
    1,717
    Mar 13, 2011
    Midwest
    0
    To quote "chapter and verse"///
    395.2 - Definitions
    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:
    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;
    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or
    (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    Yes, you can log OFF DUTY when you are resting in a parked CMV. If it is not in operation, you can be off duty anywhere, under it, across the seats, stretched out over the hood.......

    Just do not log sleeper, log OFF DUTY.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    34,017
    42,141
    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    0
    You can RIDE in the passenger seat of a property carrying Vehicle moving on the highway IMMEDIATELY before or after a period of AT LEAST 8 hours consective in sleeper.

    You can do a #### thing you want parked and away from it off duty, dig a hole in the snow like a sled dog if you want... If you can get enough rest to do another day or night's work safely.

    If you are still screwed up from no rest sleeping on steel, wood or whatever and you drive knowing you are not safe, kill someone... well... you pay for it.

    Me? I find a hotel room. The days of the hammock and tent etc are long gone. Or buy a sleeper tractor. Or find another trucking company that has them to work for.
     
  4. Snailexpress

    Snailexpress Road Train Member

    2,675
    6,069
    Apr 28, 2014
    Rocky
    0
    Sleeper berth line is for team operating to show the driver was sleeping in moving vehicle and end his rest in different location then started.
    Not for where is your bed was last night.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

    7,737
    14,422
    May 7, 2011
    0
    Wrong. Sleeper berth is an official location meeting certain specifications found in §393.76. If you are in that specific place, you log "sleeper berth". If you are NOT in a location meeting the requirements of a sleeper berth, you don't log sleeper berth time. If you're sleeping in a sleeper berth, you log sleeper berth. It doesn't matter if you're a team operation or driving solo, doesn't change the fact that if you're in the sleeper berth you log it as such.
     
  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    49,627
    233,885
    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    0
    Hammock? Not a bad idea, especially since my truck has a pintle hook that can hold one end of it. :laughing6:
     
    x1Heavy Thanks this.
  7. Snailexpress

    Snailexpress Road Train Member

    2,675
    6,069
    Apr 28, 2014
    Rocky
    0
    It's the answer I got from FMCSA some years ago.
    If you take a time to read §393.76 completely you can find some words pointing the sleeper berth is the place where someone can sleep while vehicle is moving.
    (d) Communication with the driver. A sleeper berth which is not located within the driver's compartment and has no direct entrance into the driver's compartment must be equipped with a means of communication between the occupant and the driver. The means of communication may consist of a telephone, speaker tube, buzzer, pull cord, or other mechanical or electrical device.

    (h) Occupant restraint. A motor vehicle manufactured on or after July 1, 1971, and equipped with a sleeper berth must be equipped with a means of preventing ejection of the occupant of the sleeper berth during deceleration of the vehicle. The restraint system must be designed, installed, and maintained to withstand a minimum total force of 6,000 pounds applied toward the front of the vehicle and parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
    Same rule is in FAA for the pilots. Or you have seen pilots sleeping in plane on the ground?
     
  8. Snailexpress

    Snailexpress Road Train Member

    2,675
    6,069
    Apr 28, 2014
    Rocky
    0
    DOT scale officers interpretation may vary.
    Once I was asked why tanker loaded with liquid helium heavier then empty.:eek: Balloon filled with helium is flying.
     
    x1Heavy Thanks this.
  9. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

    7,737
    14,422
    May 7, 2011
    0
    I'm not saying the sleeper berth isn't there for a driver to rest while the truck is in motion...but just because it CAN be used for that purpose does not mean that is it's ONLY valid use. §393.76 gives the requirements of a sleeper berth. If you don't meet those requisites, you cannot claim sleeper berth time. If you look elsewhere in the regulations, you see that the sleeper berth can act as a haven to save your 70, such as "All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;"...and "All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than...Time spent resting in a sleeper berth". IF you have a sleeper berth, you can use it to conserve your 70 hours when you'd otherwise be "on duty not driving". IF you are resting in the sleeper berth, you should be logging it as such.
     
    x1Heavy and Chasingthesky Thank this.
  10. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    34,017
    42,141
    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    0
    If you make it 100,000,000 balloons in a small tank... it's going to need a LNG super tanker to carry it.
     
    Snailexpress Thanks this.
  11. truckersjustice

    truckersjustice Light Load Member

    215
    217
    Sep 1, 2011
    Burnsville, MN
    0
    You may record time in a sleeper berth as sleeper berth time if you are resting in the sleeper berth.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.