Slick roads 101

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TripleSix, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. rockstar_nj

    rockstar_nj Medium Load Member

    Apr 26, 2013
    Cape May Court House, NJ
    Last time I was there, My passenger side wiper got stuck in my driver side wiper (great timing for that to decide to break), and then it flung my driver side wiper off the road somewhere... I had to go another 20 miles in heavy snow to a truck stop because horrifyingly for our job, I felt safer driving while I can barely see than being parked on the side of the road the way some of these truck drivers drive in that stuff. I'm never going that far out west again unless it's a personal road trip in my nice small car, and in the summer.
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  3. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

    Dec 10, 2014
    omaha , ne
    just go run up and down the hill over to superior and back a few times when the road is slick and youll be one with the truck quik lol.
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  4. Floorguy1

    Floorguy1 Light Load Member

    Jul 6, 2014
    Duluth MN
    My Terminal is in Superior WI
  5. Giggles the Original

    Giggles the Original Road Train Member

    wonder how many will pull this thread up and try to go by it while trying it out:biggrin_2554:
  6. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

    Apr 12, 2013
    Copperhead Road
    Very true, tho I did concentrate on a pre-misalignment scenario (curves) where the angled/sideways force figures in to a greater degree right at the initial stage, and I neglected to address initial straight line scenarios (the position where most jack-knife's begin from).

    BUT, and this is the part where I give you just a bit of grief, ALL IN FUN...

    The link to your post that you reference has YOU saying the exact same word I used (re. "sideways" force)
    An excerpt: "What this means is that when the trailer starts to swing, it also pushes sideways on the tractor through the king pin".
    Then for a 2nd offense you went on to say "Combine this with the sideways push, and they tend push the drives the opposite direction as the trailer swing.."

    I fully understand what you're saying Hammer, and I know we're on the 'same page'.
    My term "sideways" is an exaggeration (to the mind) for beginning stages of a jack-knife, especially initially straight line jack-knifes.
    On a straight line scenario, the jack-knife initially starts at zero sideways force. It only comes into play after tractor/trailer misalignment begins/occurs.

    I recommend everyone to read that post link, as it does give a very good physics lesson related to jack-knifes.
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  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

    Apr 10, 2009
    Copied in Hell
    Probably none. People stick with what they know or feel comfortable with. Flatlanders avoid the mountains. Southerners avoid the north. People from the sticks avoid the northeast.fair weather truckers avoid bad weather or night moves. You limit yourself when you do that. You limit your income. Aren't we here for the money? Why do you limit your money?

    Say for example you're in school. You've never driven a manual before. Do you stick with what you know and just apply at companies that have autos? Even if you prefer an auto, you would want to be able to drive a manual. Even if you don't like tire chains, you still want to be able to chain up. If you prefer to run team, you need to be able to run solo and if you're solo, you need to be able to function in a team truck. See, that's the high end. They WILL pay you for what you know, especially when you are the solution to all their problems.
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  8. Giggles the Original

    Giggles the Original Road Train Member

    Triplesix it was a joke...lighten up man....
  9. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

    Jan 18, 2011
    Well Hammer ol buddy...i is one o them Fl guys as ya know&I actually read most of the posts here&realized you r right I do not know a ####### thing about driving in the snow...technically...and frankly readin all this really gave me a headache....and at the risk of jinxin my superstitious ###....i really have no godly idea how I've managed to make it 1/2 way thru my 42d winter....its mind...#######...boggling.....:)

    and now that I'm thinkin bout it...I believe you prolly are Dangerous.....LMAO
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  10. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

    Aug 18, 2007
    ~8600+' and loving it!
    And you know you ain't the kind of Florida fool I was talking about. Lol!

    Me? Dangerous? You sound like that sassy waitress! :biggrin_2559:
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  11. Rocks

    Rocks Road Train Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    When I was in CDL school we watched several videos showing tankers practicing on skid pads... they would make some kind of turn at the same time water was squirted on the ground near their tires to force them "lose control" of the vehicle... those drivers were all professional experienced drivers... Quite interesting... My CDL school used to have that skid pad training but when I took the program they didn't have it anymore... :biggrin_25513:
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