I think the other driver failed you by not sitting up there with you on duty teaching you about Wyoming. There are a bunch of things up there that will go wrong in a heartbeat weather wise. It is not a place for flat newbies (No offense..)
If you were with me as your trainer and I understood you aint ever been through wyoming in your life, I will be up there with you doing wyoming school. You can search my posts and attached pictures because they are from there.
With that said, the damage is done. You will be out of work for a while. No one will hire you with damage on your history. Not for a while. eventually you will find another trucking job.
It's part of your education, blood, sweat and tears plus occasionally a totaled truck.
Small problem..well maybe a Large problem.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Gently, Feb 8, 2018.
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I'm just wondering how many of you drivers, not owners but driver know how much that damage cost to get repaired?
To give you a little idea of how much, here is a short list of possible damage could include an axle and spring, drum and brake parts, hood and all trim, headlight, bumper, and if the damage hit the engine, turbo, exhaust manifold, all related hardware too. Oh cac and radiator.
Plus check the frame for a twist and all the labor to take it apart and put it together.
I have a figure, I know becuase I had a truck that did this, the dash cam did exonerate the driver but never the less the insurance did not total the truck put.Lepton1 Thanks this. -
@scottied67 you might want to post a video about passing in a high broadside gusting wind. I run these kind of winds regularly.
Here's a thumbnail of the challenge.
Traveling in the right lane the crown of the road (at the zipper) would normally have you pulling the steering wheel slightly to the left. However, with a gusting broadside wind from the right you have to have a loose grip on the wheel and noodle arms to quickly make adjustments to the right and back left again to track a straight line.
Now you need to pass another truck.
You "dip your toe" into the hammer lane, to borrow Scottie67's phrase, get all the way in the left lane, and now you are wanting to pull the wheel to the right if there is no wind and then right a lot more if there is a gust.
As you approach the truck you are passing you start hitting the vortices coming off the back of his trailer. Those vortices are being pushed downwind, into your lane. You will start getting really active with the steering wheel to track a straight line ON THE LEFT FOG LINE. I don't care if the pavement drops off just on the other side of that fog line, you stay ON THE FOG LINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PASS.
Why? Because you have no idea whether you are passing a rookie, an overconfident driver with one hand on the wheel, or a distracted driver. Stay WELL CLEAR until you complete the pass.
As you get even with the trailer you are passing you will then get hit by vortices coming over the top of that trailer. It will knock you both left and right. Stay loose, concentrate on your line on that left fog line, and be ready to move the steering wheel dramatically at times to keep your line.
Now you approach the nose of the truck you are passing. That's when you get hit by a hard blast, the wake of the nose. DON'T OVER CORRECT, but do be prepared to pull hard right.
Then you come even and that wake disappears for a moment. Then the second bow wake hits you just ahead of him. HOLD THAT FOG LINE.
Now you are coming clear and the gusting wind starts hammering you again. Hold that fog line until you are clear of the truck you are passing. I never look in my passenger side mirror until that truck disappears from my hood globe mirror. I can see it out of my peripheral vision without turning my head. Only when it disappears from that mirror do I look into my passenger side mirror to start judging when it is safe to get back over.
Be aware that going under bridges or other wind barriers the sudden absence of wind can suck you back to the right.
Never ever over correct. It's a good idea to practice lane changes if there's no traffic around. Get used to riding the fog lines on both sides in all conditions.Cattleman84, Gently and scottied67 Thank this. -
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Alrighty then, After sorting through all of my LIMITED options and reading the responses here combined with my inexperience in operating a large heavy commercial vehicle, I have come to a serious conclusion:
I need to take this whole Semi thing VERY serious. I usually do take transportation seriously, I earned my US Coast guard license of Master 100 tons and was the Captain of a 165 ft ChoyLee, running around the Caribbean and the windward and leeward Islands with the owner on board and his family, I took it very seriously. I earned my Pilot certificate and flew my wife and kids all over, I took it very seriously. I was a EVOC instructor and I took it very seriously.
I really cannot explain why this occurred, I made a serious mistake in that I could have injured, maimed or killed someone and I regret that sincerely. I need to eat a great big dish of humble pie, I looked at it as an adventure. I did very well in the CDL school, only missed 2 questions on the written test, passed the driving test and backing first time with no mistakes. I paid attention. Both my Lead drivers said I had a very good grasp on the driving aspect (even the one I had a "personality" conflict with). I believe that all of this, the totality of the circumstance, gave me the feeling of arrogance and overconfidence.
So I have found a job with TransAM who actually seems to have a good training program and they said I could practice longer than they normally let CDL students practice (within reason) and I could take up to 30 days with a lead driver even if the lead says I am ready.
This event has done something that I have not felt or sensed in a very long time, it has shaken my confidence, A nasty blow to my ego because no matter how I try to justify it I was wrong and was lucky enough not to cause injury to anyone. So I thank all of you who responded to my post, to remind me, I am not perfect and if I want to do this do it right learn and comprehend what I have learned.Toomanybikes and scottied67 Thank this. -
You don't need the added pressure of dealing with leasing a truck, so stick with being a company driver at TransAm.
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When you lose a steer tire in a explosive failure today in one of the modern trucks you can expect to not only lose your hood and everything on it, the stuff on either side of your engine will be damaged as well. If that was the left side that blew, then the engine ECM is there on the block. Nothing but chips and plastic. Those are about 1500 dollars plus a goodly amount of labor etc to replace. I have never lost the steer tires in my lifetime. And I am thankful for that.
I have also totaled trucks in a very heavy haul. Ive lost axles coming out with both duals. Ive lost frames entire front ends Ive done it all. Sometimes they fired me sometimes they did not. The last wreck I had was in HD in CT when I took out and destroyed 10K in store inventory at the lot rather than wreck two rows of cars. It's a classic damed if you do and damed if you don't so I took out the less expensive problem in working on getting out.
In short I am very expensive. There are times I come back with a truck so damaged it is totaled and written off. If I still have a job after that remains to be seen.
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