Snow Chains Questions

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  1. AbbandonZK

    AbbandonZK Light Load Member

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    1. What's the correct quantity of snow chains required to be legal in CO, WA and OR?

    I have 3 bags of single pairs and now I'm being told that I need 1 bag of doubles and 3 pairs of singles. Then I read online only need 9 single pairs. My company charges 300$ deposit to put these on our trucks and I have to go alll the way to FL to get the doubles.

    2. The bag says 25mph max with these things. Is that true or is it just save their butts legal warning the manufacturers put on here?

    3. I was told that chains won't help me go down snow and icy hills.

    I'm assuming the uphill procedure is just to go up at 15mph with the tach at 1500. And downhill is like 5-10 with the engine brake off in 3rd gear?

    4. There were a couple of posts here about the trailer dancing? What is this? Is it like a wobble like triples do? I pull a smooth bore. Any tips for that trailer other than finding religion like another post mentioned.

    Thanks for reading.
     
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  3. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    How many axles on your truck? Chk the DOT chain regs online. You can run 30-35 mph in deep snow and a tight chain. Smooth bores are not actually great in slick conditions. Sloshing you know. There are places you want to mash on your gas and other places easy does it. NOT to slow on the supers! You'll slide into bottom of the corner. I've never been a trucker but that's what the videos on YouTube said.
     
  4. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    You need to consider "Maximum Chain Control Rules" ...

    Also, note in below pdf the various "red" gotchas that they can impose, at will.

    I think California is the most restrictive at maximum ...
    http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ChainGuidelines.pdf

    NOTE: For Super-Singles trucks - Maximum chain control = All 4 drive wheels
     
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  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    25-30 MPH is the general accepted max speed to reduce damage. But go up as fast as you safely can, within reason. Try to avoid unnecessary slowing on the uphill trip, just for the sake of slowing down. Even with chains, if it's steep enough and deep/slick enough, slowing too much or stopping can be disastrous, but do what you have to do.

    Drive what conditions allow and what you're comfortable with. Don't pay attention to operating in a particular "gear". Generally if you have to chain to go up, you will be expected to leave them on for the trip down the other side to the "bottom". (Usually not room at the top to remove them even if you wanted to)

    Tankers have their own inherent problems. Liquid shifts to the back of the trailer when going up an incline, this removes weight from the drives and lessens traction somewhat. With loaded tanks on slick roads, "steady momentum" is even more critical to try and maintain.
     
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  6. yuban

    yuban Medium Load Member

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    You Sh**! Good one.
     
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  7. Wynotme307

    Wynotme307 Bobtail Member

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    Washington, Oregon and California. Count tires chained whether it is doubles or singles doesn't matter.
     
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  8. AbbandonZK

    AbbandonZK Light Load Member

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    Thank you everyone for your responses.

    I though CO stood for Colorado not California.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Yeah, it used to until a few million Californians moved to Colorado.
     
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  10. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Washington you need 5 to comply plus have 2 spares. Montana requires you to chain all drive wheels so that makes 8 singles or 4 each 3 rails. I don't go to California so that does not affect me. On my last job we carried 2 sets of 3 rail chains and 2 sets of singles. We could chain up all drive tires along with 2 trailer tires and if needed the steer tires.

    Yes you want to travel 25 mph with chains. They do not make you immune to load shifts with the tanker.
     
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